25 year old mac out-boots XP.

LOL! Did anyone have one of these? I was a dos/amiga man myself.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7845988.stm

Ok XP has to load a -lot- more bloat, but still..

Makes you think though, many people (like my mum) don't really do much more with XP/office than they did with one of these :D

yeah and also when using that mac you dont leave 2 to 3 gigs worth of bloat on your desktop like I do and xp still boots quicker than the one shown

I wonder how fast the first apple to have a hard drive was

Well this is why I keep my Win98 computer around, and why I'm enjoying DSL on my modern laptop.

It does what I need it to and boots up fast.

is there any way i can get XP onto a slimfast diet?
all this talk of bloat makes me think it spends its time eating burgers and fries and little exercise
well my last one did have a heart attack when i asked it to look for aliens with seti

perhaps i should buy a wii and wii fit and get it active ;)

Yes by loading all that bloat you don't have to swap floppy disks every 5 seconds. And ability to change fonts, format text layout, insert pictures into documents etc isn't really that much more is it :D

And yet the irony is, Vista has about 800% more bloat than XP. If Windows 95 could run on a Pentium 66Mhz pretty well. It doesn't say a lot about the new operating systems does it? How much bloat do you read to play mp3s, type up a word document or check the internet (as today's mobile phones have clearly proved)

thats the argument alot of late adopters of XP were using (which got migrated to vista)

this p4 runs noticably slower than my pentium D dual core did (understandably) yet i cant help but think it would be better with w98 installed instead

the only down side would be id no longer be able to access my larger than fat16 can understand (and fat32 formatted) external hard drive ... nor my old NTFS boot drive (or the 1tb i recently installed in my old box)

programmers dont optimise any more
if its slow just advise a better system

The only amazing thing about that video, is that any of the floppies still worked.

It might have booted up faster than XP, but by the end of the video it looked like she was just sticking the discs in randomly, hoping to drop on the right one. People only used to tolerate that because there was nothing better. Same reason why we all put up with games on cassette in the 1980s.

Oh and I reckon ENAY is a closet Vista user. Probably so far back in the closet that he's in Narnia.

:)

perhaps they should have compared the latest iMac instead
and she waisted valuable time by not booting up with the floppy in the drive

I got windows XP to boot extremely fast (~10 seconds from post beep to active desktop) by slimming down the profiles.
Here's what I did:

(Bear in miind, I am the ONLY user of my PC)
1) Extracted Program Files and Documents and Settings to a separate HD partition so that Only basic system directory and boot files exist on C:
2) Remove all the extraneous profile stuff, pointed Default User to my user profile.
3) Modified the remaining registry entries pertaining to documents to non-migrating All Users.
4) Ensured NTUser files, Networking Service and S.A.M details matched the profile changes.
5) Disabled all unneccessary / unused services and startup apps.

It's a pointless comparison, your comparing apples and oranges purely for PR. Loading applications from floppy disk, saving files to them, swapping them about; it sucked and anyone who has been there and done that, knows it.

Darkheart

Hah!
Compare XP to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmUdPkarkQA

This is a MSX, booting SymbOS :)

Who's PR? not mine. Of course its a pointless comparison :)
I just thought it was amusing the fact it was ready to use so quickly compared to the modern(ish) system. That model (the cube) did actually come with a hard disk on the better version that had a 4-5 second boot up. It did have some cool wysiwyg DTP stuff going on, with insertable images and fonts on when the rest of the 'IBM' PC world were still using text-mode wordprocessors. Which is another thing thats quite funny, many people are no better off (with exception of modern telecoms internet etc) a color HDD version of this would still be enough for mosts' home wordprocessing/dtp needs. :D

I knew someone who had an early Mac. It was a very nice one, with hard drive and printer. It cost about $5,000 circa 1985. That's close to $10,000 in today's money.

If you had one of these on your desk today the first thing you would notice is the incredibly small monitor. It is one of the main reasons the Mac didn't catch on in the business world.

doesn't take that long, besides if you get one of those ASUS mobos with the new fast boot which ignores all the post stuff. Vista is supposed to boot in about 4 seconds.

Get some RAID action going and you'll significantly increase your boot time.

Keep in mind that Windows 98 doesn't support dual core, so your second core would be completely unused.


Anyway: One of the big reasons that the ancient OS'es booted so quickly is that the bulk of the OS was actually stored in ROM and did not have to load from disk at all...plus the total amount of data they had to deal with was orders of magnitude less.

Also, one of the big reasons slowdowns on boot on a modern computer is that that it spends a lot of time waiting, to give all the hardware peripherals time to properly be detected and registered to the system. The speed of the computer itself is irrelevant when it comes to those kind of things.

(Even more pronounced on some servers, that can literally take minutes doing nothing but wait for all harddrives to spin up properly, because not having each drive ready can play hell on a RAID array and the prolonged boot is much less nuisance than a broken RAID because it tried to jump the gun)

That said: switching from a single core to dual core CPU can make a big difference in boot time since the computer is dealing with a lot of different processes at that time.

Use Nlite it rips all the stuff out of Windows that you do not need.
For a fresh install of Windows that is.

Yup.

Use Nlite and build your own unattended XP disk Sledge.Without all the bloatware.

Oooh -- good call, cheers.

Meh people have complained about bloat in EVERY Windows releas, yes even back to Windows 3 oh no 1MB just to edit some documents??

Oh do tell your secret.

Asrock instant boot mobos.



http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/605172/asrock-instant-boot-loads-windows-in-four-seconds.html

I expect you can speed things up even more with a solid state HD. 64gb for about $150 175mb/s read 100mb/s write.

i was refering to the p4

some prebuilt vista systems always seem woefully under speced for it as if they are forcing vista on you yet would be fine under XP
im guessing this was an early adopter of XP when the corporate owner originally owned it
(i got it from a local equivelant of morgan resale, so it wasnt just 2nd hand junk it was corporate 2nd hand junk ;) )

95/98 had a nice enough foot print for the time (that i can remember)
it all seems to be from the switch to NT based OS
I mean a DVD just to install an OS nothjing else, no copy of microsoft office bundled with it
or perhaps it was 2mb over the cd limit? i see a dvd and see a potentila 5gb of data

perhaps its installed every printer driver, every gfx driver etc so you dont have to go disc hunting every time you upgrade

Actually: The main reason for switching Vista from CD to DVD was that they now contain all different versions on a single disc. (home basic, home premium, business, ultimate

Thanks to that, they could offer their 'upgrade anytime' program. With 'upgrade anytime' you can purchase a new product key for a 'better' version of Vista than the one currently installed on your PC.
(e.g. upgrade Home Basic to Home Premium, or go all the way up to Vista Ultimate)

Your existing windows DVD will already contain the version that you just purchased: simply type your new product key and it can install/upgrade to the better edition.

(more proof: If you do a fresh Vista install and choose not to enter a product key yet, you have to select which Vista edition to install. You'll have to enter the product key before the activation time frame expires)

handy info to know that :D