22 " Monitor Samsung or Acer?

I dont know which one to get......

it either 22 " ACER monitor(£170) or 22 " Samsung(£230) even thought Acer monitor are lots cheaper

which one do you think I should go for ?

cheers

[I cut and pasted this from another thread]

Having long been a CRT fan, I had to buy a new screen earlier this year and I now have a 22" Samsung SyncMaster 226BW.

I have to say it is just fantastic.

2ms response time
1680*1050 resolution
high contrast ratio
dvi and rgb connection

The price? Just over £200 inc vat.

In fact this is so good that my client has just invested in 3 for the project I am working on. Their clients were very impressed too, when they saw what they were getting.

Check out the price at : www.microdirect.co.uk/(16668)22-Samsung-SM226BW-Widescreen-LCD-Monitor.aspx

IPete2.

With my current financial situation, I'd go for the cheaper one. But I do hear that Samsung and Viewsonic have some of the better monitors to get.

I'm very happy with my 19" Samsung, and they use the same model at my work.

Samsung had a pretty good policy on dead pixels (I'm pretty sure it was zero fully dead pixels), whereas many others will allow lower quality to ship. No idea what Acer's policy is.

Samsung LCDs are generally very high quality. I was an LCD naysayer until I saw a Samsung 32" LCD tv in action. Now I have one as a monitor.

The monitor IPete mentions is £210 on Ebuyer.com, with £10 off if you sign up with google-checkout.

I've got the Sammy 205bw which is the 20" version and it's fantastic, same res as the 22", really crisp picture through DVI... No complaints here.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000F9SNIW/interactiveda3005-21

The new versions have better response time from what I understand.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SM206BW-Widescreen-TFT-Monitor/dp/B000MRRLGC/

I've nothing good to say about Acer monitors and nothing bad to say about Samsung monitors. Had three Acers, all of which were either broken on purchase or broke shortly afterwards. My current Samsung has been great, almost as good as my old Sony, but Sony are very, very expensive.

Samsung 22 " monitor would get Vote over Acer Monitor but If I dont have enough moneys then acer would be the answer.

If you haven't got enough money, why is there any debate?

Even if it's crap?

If you haven't got enough money, why is there any debate?

I have £250 to spend on good monitor but like I say....Acer is good monitor but samsung is better quaity monitor. At the end of the day....it come down to what you pay for "HIGH QUAITY Stuff"

So I would get Samsung.

I have a 19" Acer AL1917ABMD, and am very happy with it. Looks great, nice slimline bezel, DVI.
the only two downsides is that it had a stand that isn't height adjustable (using a 3rd party stand instead), and that it has speakers. (All built-in speakers sound like crap compared to 'real' speakers, so what's the point?)

I haven't seen any of the Samsung's myself, but have absolutely no regrets about getting the Acer.

I do have bad experiences with Acer computers over the years, but not the screens.

If you check out the link I posted you'll see that the Samsung is £210 inc vat at Microdirect (a very good bunch of people in Manchester. I don't know what post and packaging is on top though.

IPete2.

But what are 3D games like on TFT, much blurring these days? Sswift was reporting a while back that his simple 2D shooter was all blurry on a TFT...

Samsung and Acer both produce very good monitors. At this point I think it boils down to religion/personal preference.

Go for Samsung, they make the best flad screen monitors

Grey, I don't notice blurring whilst playing a game (with my screen). I'm sure that if I anally looked for flaws I'd find them, but to be honest it works fine. I have noticed some tearing whilst programming blitz stuff but not on anything commercial.

Blurring might even make the game look slightly better?! After all, everyone seems to want motion blur anyway.

I know there are some people who moan about x,y and z and if they're that bothered they can go spend £1000 on a spangly flat screen for their computer or use a CRT.

I'm sure if you're hardcore photo editing or need exact colour then maybe it's worth it. If you're not too bothered about pan tones being exact then most budget monitors will suit you fine.

hmm, well I 'll be getting a new PC next year and it could be time to get a nice big TFT. Most of the time I'm programming or using the Internet anyway, it's just that I want games to look as good as possible...

The worst part about TFTs is when you can't use native res and you get unpleasant scaling.

Grey,

Yeah Rob is totally correct about that - if you don't want to run it in the naitive resolution of the screen then look at CRTs.

The 22" Samsung I have linked to above, is bright, colourful and absolutely stable to look at for extra long periods of time - you know what my hours are like Jake! ;) It is widescreen, high contrast, very reasonable blacks (although not as good as a crt I must admit), 2ms response time - very fast. I am running COD UO at 1680 x 1050 and there is no blur as suggested elsewhere. Half Life 2 'thingy' Coast looked awesome on it and I have played a little Halo and Holiday Bonus on it - looks great to me.

I have programmed my last two projects on this screen , indeed the client of my big project is having 3 delivered for their kiosks to play the game on. I would say it is a definate contender, and I wouldn't hesitate to get a second one for other PCs in the house.

I would say that CRT's do still offer a couple of things which make them better in som eways, things like, multiple resoluitions, variable Hz refresh rate, very bright images... that said I still get on with my Samsung very well thanks.

IPete2.

Yeah I don't like the idea of having to run at the native res because I'm not sure my eyesight is that good that I want to look at anything less than 1024x768 (which my CRT runs at). I find my Macbook Pro's TFT hard to read for example. Yet when it's scaled (to a non 2:1 ratio) it looks blurry and is also hard (or more cacurately uncomfortable) to read...

I would go for a 24" myself. An LG to be precise. If you can stand 2D shooters blurring. (3D FPS's are just fine.) Why? The view angles on the Samsung are awful. I don't know about the Acer in particular, but every 22" I saw in the local stores had terrible view angles. The samsung though was among the worst of the lot there. Also their panels have a better response time, so less blurring, but they're 6-bit dithered, so you get a little noise in the image and the colors aren't as good.

Sswift, I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I can understand viewing angles being an issue with a tele but on a monitor personally I'm pretty static infront of it.

yeah view angles mean nothing uless you are having a party and everyone stares at the screen form all angles.

You use a CRT for long periods - that's why. ;-)

This increase in the popularity of widescreen monitors could cause some programming headaches. Discuss.

It's true that the view angles are bad on Samsungs, but as others have said, I can't see why it's an issue unless you're recovering from a severe case of Formica Thongilius ( ants in the pants. )

Yes it's already on my framework to do list to support nomral aspect ratio games on a widescreen via black bars.

The flip side of that approach is what I'm doing with my game and forcing it widescreen aspect with letterbox black bars on a 4:3 ratio.

Rob:
Yeah, but the Samsung gets noticably brighter and darker if you move your head up and down just a little bit. That would drive me absolutely bonkers. Don't you sometimes slouch, sometimes sit up straight, sometimes lean back? I do. Constantly.

And a 24" is big enough that if the side viewing angles aren't great enough, and you have the monitor on a medium sized desk so it's only a couple feet away from you, then you can potentially see a difference in contrast between the middle and the edges of the screen.

Even on my LG, there is a slight reduction in contrast near the sides when I'm looking at the middle. It's only noticable when comparing two identical images in photoshop on the LG, but it's there, and it would be much worse on a monitor like the Samsung.

To be perfectly honest I don't notice anything like that, but maybe that's because my monitor is already at eye height so I'm head on all the time, even if I slouch or sit up I'm well within the viewing angle.

And mine's a 20", I couldn't have anything bigger (well maybe a 22") and still use my desk riser or I'd be looking up at the monitor.

Swifty,

I don't know which monitor from Samsung you have been looking at but you really would have to slouch a long way down or up to see any issue with the one I have.

As Rob says you tend to sit in one position mainly and that would be directly in front of the monitor if health and safety have anything to do with it.

IPete2.

Do they even make CRTs anymore?

I have two 20" samsungs (syncmaster 730bf and syncmaster 740b) connected to this computer and they both work just great. No dead pixels or any problems at all.