Authenticated emails sounds good for anti-spam

This sounds good:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7027451.stm

Do you think it will work or will spammers just find another way?

I'd like to sign up to it soon as I got turd loads of spam every day that my spam filters fail with, let's see I get:

- lottery wins
- relative of rich dead person with an offer I can't refuse
- confirm bank details even though I don't bank with them
- link exchange requests for irrelevent sites
- viagra + other pills
- p*nis elargement
- hot stock tips
- traffic boosting schemes
- work at home and make wads of cash
- some hot chick (or man) who's coming to visit me
- cheap (knockoff) software
- the odd porn link (but surprisingly few)
- unintelegible random cr*p I have no idea what it is
- a random attachment that I am clearly not going to open

Maybe I've missed a few but that's the gist of them. Anyone else get something different?

Nigerian Government Minister, Who'll trust me to help launder his (stolen?) money

People You used to keep in conntact with, who dont realise that you havent lost their contact details

I just want an e-mail system where that crap can't be spoofed or malformed....the amount of times I get e-mails from the future.....

Least Yahoo! is onboard the system, a company that large will at least be able to keep it alive for adoption by others, will be using it myself whenever it gets wide-spread to the point where Mozilla implements it into ThunderBird.

I find it's quite the opposite actually.

In either case e-mail authentication has been possible for at least the last 10 years. However when is that last time you recieved an OpenPGP signed e-mail?

Fairly recently, but I'm an exception as I'm a highly paranoid twit.

I really don't know how a mail-server work but I think that a 'sender' of thousand of e-mail per day can be discovered quite easily (or an anomaly traffic).
So you can check the sender and verify why it needs to send so many e-mails.
I thinks that ISP *can* - if they want - control this.
The problem is that the word 'control' on internet (and so Authenticated emails...) is not well accepted.
In any case what does't it mean? I can receive only e-mail 'validated' by someone else? If the sender is not 'under' a domain-key I can't receive?
And what is the cost? e-mail is becomed a standard communication system because it's free...
Honestly: I don't open EVERY email I received. I don't click on EVERY link.
If you are walking on the street and a guy ask you your personal information, you answer or not?

Unfortunately the majority of spam these days gets sent through botnets -- hacked windows boxes.

so instead of one spammer sending 50 million messages, it will look like 10 million people sending 5 messages each. Most of which have a randomly generated fake from: address, so they don't look like they're from the same people either.

There's a reason spam is so hard to kill... :-?

Unfortunately, there have been been many such attempts to 'fix' it, and so far every single one has fizzled out -- mostly because pretty much none of them work until everyone adopts it, and noone does because they're not widely supported. Classic catch-22.

Add to that that many of these schemes break very useful things like automated mail forwards, and it's no surprise that there hasn't been a magic fix yet.

Yes. But preventing people who use Windows from using the Internets is probably a bad business decision.

It's not free, it's simply subsidized by the cost of your Internet connection (in much the same way as the copy of Windows you get with your shiny new Dell isn't free). It's become the dominating form of communication, because before wikis existed, it was the most effective way of collaborating.

Congratulations on not being part of the problem - you're in a minority.

Well yes actually. 34% of people traveling through Liverpool Street station, would give out passwords to a complete stranger. Furthermore 70% wouold give it in exchange for a simple bribe. As if that wasn't bad enough, almost 80% disclosed information that would allow a social engineer to guess the correct password. (linky)

Ah yes saw that BBC news report before.

Well I hope that in the future we can reduce this problem.

I forgot to add another type of spam to my list:

- You have received a greetings card from a friend/family member (yeah right!)

We've even been receiviing the odd telephone SCAM calls recently such as an automated system asking to verify bank details, and a lottery winners notification in the post!

Just don't hang up the telephone. :o>

Stupidity or ignorance is not a valid excuse.
I dont' live in Liverpool - but I can't believe people is like reported in the news!

Yes - but for final consumer/user this 'hidden price' is accepted - it's years that many wants to offer a paid-email service (trusted - cleaned & and so on...do you remember Bill Gates's '1 cents for email' proposal?) - but nothing is happened.
The security of the net is in the net itself and as the users ARE part of the net they MUST collaborate to maintain the internet.
I'm not a 'no-global' guy or 'free-internet-for-everyone': I'm the first that want to pay for a connection to a decent ADSL; but I dont' want that there will some type of control over the internet.
Little OT: Birmania last week - without internet none could know the facts...and remember China & Google agreement of the search-engine. This is not good...

Excuse for what?

Liverpool Street Station is in London, one of the busiest I'm lead to believe and is as good a place as any to sample "reasonable people".

Only due to lack of choice. I'd gladly pay whatever amount less for my ISP to ditch an e-mail account I never use.

Because it's a stupid idea, blatantly open for abuse, and not at all likely to prevent spam, even at 10 cents an e-mail these bottom feeders would still be making a huge profit. Bill Gates only suggested that because he can do the math. By "legitimizing" spam Microsoft gets one cent off each spammers dollar - quite a good business proposal for Microsoft - not quite so good for everyone else, who now have to pay even more for their e-mail, yet still get bombarded with useless e-mail.

There's no way to control the Internet - it doesn't fall under any countries (or perhaps more frightening corporations) jurisdiction. If neither the US or Chinese governments can do it, what chance do other countries have?

Yes they could. The totalitarian Burmese military junta are oppressing their political opponents, and killing protesters, much like they've done the last 45 years, since they came to power in 1962. However since Burma has nothing of value, no one really cares. What more facts could you possibly need?

To whom? I'm sure Yahoo is terribly exited at all the new traffic they've gotten from Chinese citizens.

Sadly this is probably true as some scammers were able to afford to stick a 0.50 Euro stamp on a fake lottery letter to me! It's a multi-billion dollar (crime) industry.

By the way, I don't think anyones mentioned mail-order brides yet.

Not seen any of those but I don't read them too closely. I've been getting some supposed emails about games recently, some with attachements. One claimed to be a Hentai game today but I didn't look at it (honest! ;-))

-Facebook, bebo & other social networking horrors. "Blah blah has added you to facebook"
-Ones that use random passages of text from ebooks + an image to try and make them look like legit mail to filters (THESE ARE THE WORST!!!!)

Tip: Use thunderbird from mozilla.org, it grabs most of it.