IDEs? (Because I Trust You People)

What is the best IDE for Blitzmax?
Here are some factors:
1. Can It be transported on a flash/pen/jump drive?
2. Is it .NET Dependent? (Can someone tell me why some even are?)
3. What features (positive or negative) do they have that differs from the default IDE?

I heard that Blide is excellent but I don't want to download .net 2.0.

Well "best" is somewhat subjective. Judging from your factors I'd have to go with Eclipse (which relies on Java rather than .Net, if that makes any difference) or UltraEdit.

Blide.
1) suppose
2) net 2
3) Mostly Type member code completion

I didnt want to download net 2 either, but there you go

I don't get people who don't want to download .net. It's like saying "What's the best FPS game? I don't want to download videocard drivers or DirectX 9." Why? I'm not picking on you, CASO, it's a thing I've seen plenty of times. I'm just genuinely puzzled by the thinking behind it. It doesn't do anything unless you're running a .Net app, so I don't see any possible concern.

I would say ppl who dont have a genuine Windows, are the ones who most dont want to dl Net

Not having genuine Windows is just pure laziness.

Best IDE I used for Blitz was Blide.

Oops, good point. I take it back then, there is a valid ( if rather dodgy ) reason.

I'd assume there'd be ways for even illegit Win users to install .Net regardless.

Anyways, is Blide B3d compatible? Remembered why I hated the default IDE (single-undo -.-) and wouldn't mind something decent (and possibly free) that has standard features, and possibly function-collapsing.

WOW! Some of you jump to conclusions. I AM working with genuine Windows XP. The reason I don't want to download it is because I have a dialup connection (DSL isn't available here yet). Also I work on several different computers (several that are not my own) and I don't want to download it on each of them just to run a better IDE.

Are we a little clearer now?

You're the only one conclusion jumping. Genuine Windows was being discussed as a broad reason for people not installing .Net. No one accused you.


Neither did I until recently. I didn't hamper myself further by refusing to install things I needed though. I just bit the bullet and downloaded it.


Well in that case, you're pretty limited then. If you're running on several machines that aren't yours, you probably can't rely on Java, and you can't run anything which requires registry access if you're going to run it from a Flash Drive.

Your best bet is probably going to be Matt Smith's IDE when it has BMax support. It's not quite ready yet so if it does currently required registry access you might be able to talk him into a workaround.

http://www.blitzbasic.com/logs/userlog.php?user=79&log=1341

Bah, I have legit Windows XP and I have .Net but not because I want it. .Net sucks, programs using it suck. I do use Blide though, I wish it wasn't .Net.

.Net does all kinds of strange things and has strange errors associated with it.

No one jumped to conclusions, I just stated a fact that most ppl who have a non genuine copy of windows wont dl Net 2 or 3 cos the have to dl that Genuine Validator thing as well. Its the truth. And is infact the reason most ppl who wont dl (as apposed to simply dont) Net. dont.

Why does Blide need .net? (FYI I feel stupid asking)

EDIT: Matt Smith's 'Project Studio IDE' USES .NET TOO!

The Dot Net 2.0 framework is 23 MB. On a typical dialup modem connection that would take about 70 minutes to download, after which you could also put it on your flash drive.

Given how common dot net stuff is these days, you may have to byte the bullet sooner or later. :-?

Ya know, (this is going totally off-topic) when I was using dialup, I was surprised at how effectively all those 'download helper' programs did. Okay, so they claim that they make your downloads run faster. But what if I loose connection?? I never saw any effective solution for that. And all IE would ever do is say 'there's a problem downloading this', maybe give you half of the file, and you're stuck trying to download the whole thing again.

Okay, my rant's over.

Programs like GetRight could resume a partial download, but the catch is that that is only possible if the server that hosts the content supports resumes, and will give you the partial file. If the server insists on giving you the entire download again from the start, then there's nothing a download helper can do to work around that...

Guys,

I always find the suggestion of .Net being some sort of 'evil' install due to it's 'massive' download (I guess it is large for dialups) and because of that you shouldn't install as kind of odd. If you have come from something like VB6 like I have, the .Net framework is fantastic as it includes most of the functionality you require to code just about anything. No more installing 10 different libraries and hoping. You can also copy/move the entire product folder and the program will still work.

2.0 and above works great - my IDE has no speed issues plus it's a pleasure to code. Vista comes with 3.0 already installed and didn't WinXPSP2 include it?? So what are you waiting for! I guess I'm bias, but .Net is really coming into it's own as an application creation tool.

Also thanks for the support from you guys in regards to my IDE - I do personally think it will be the best available and in my eyes the reason for this is .Net.

I heard .Net can give you AIDS.

> Why does Blide need .net? (FYI I feel stupid asking)


Simple answer, it was written in .net, just like a program written in Java requires the java runtime to function a program written to use .net needs the framework to run.