Internet Explorer 7 available

Its out of beta at last.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/default.mspx

PS. Let's not have yet another thread slagging off Microsoft. If you don't want it, then just don't download it.

Bit slow on the grabbage weren't you? :)

I wouldn't mind this, going to install it when I get back since my New PC actually doesn't flag up as Pirated.

Installed it yesterday. Going to fully test it out and then give my opinion. :)

There'll probably be an RC2 also.

I think it's out of "release candidate" stage amon. I think it's full release now.

It might be, it's just that the filename states it's RC1 "IE7RC1-WindowsXP-x86-enu".

Think you're downloading the wrong version - I've got "IE7-WindowsXP-x86-enu.exe"

Yep! I definately had the wrong version. Just redownloaded and installed it.

Don't know how that happened. I'm pretty sure I got it from the same link you provided.

I'm find IE7 okay, very lean to look at!

Dabz

I'm guessing IE7 still tracks and records all your surfing activities like the previous versions(?)
See:

http://www.microsuck.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

I've been using the RC1 release for a while now. It's waaay better than IE6 imho.

Since they're both trying to be merged with each other... does this improve the file explorer in any way as well?

heh cool just upgraded from the last beta. I'm quite fond of IE7 much nicer than previous versions.

I hate how the navbar is stuck at the top, is there a way to change that?

i agree fredborg, menus below the navbar is a problem for me. not sure if its possable to move it.

Tried it and it's slow, I prefer Avant is far more faster, faster then firefox too.

I'm guessing they haven't fixed the backspace bug which causes your browser to go back a page if you press backspace in an activex control ( eg: in a chatroom ) ?


I'm pretty sure this won't be an option for long. In a few weeks I suspect it will be automatically downloaded as a critical update through Windows updates.

...And withing 24 hours of its release, there's already a security vulnerability discovered:
http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/

IE7 is a completely seperate program again - MS have finally realised it's not cool to have security holes in your web browser that directly affect your desktop as well - in Vista, IE and Windows Explorer are back to being two completely seperate environments.

For those asking about the navbar, no it is not movable. It is designed to mimick Vista's interface.


You are 100% correct. Which will make our office environment interesting for the next few weeks - around 10 computers sharing a dial up account ;]

Yes! At last I can use (without hacks) transparent .PNGs on my (coming) website. GIFs suck because they only have on/off transparency... and I can just ignore IE6 users because these days you'd better keep your browser updated to the latest version for security reasons. And IE7 seems beter than IE6 anyway. Printing (at least print preview, haven't really tesed it yet) still suck compared to FF.

...As if that would stop people.

I've seen a surprisingly large number of people that purposfully disabled the windows update simply because they doin't trust microsoft. There will a MANY people continueing to run IE6 for a long, long time. Heck, even IE 5.0 still has a market share of ~4% (*) which is almost twice as much as the percentage of people using Mozilla or Netscape.
IE 6.0 came out in 2001, and well over 5 years later IE5 is still alive and kicking.

More importantly: IE 7 *requires* XP servicepack 2, Vista, or windows 2003 server. It will NOT run on Win9x, ME, Windows 2000, or even a stock XP or XP-SP1. Especially including the latter two, that still encompasses a significant number of users.

(*) http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Will try later.

Which is a problem for warezed XP versions, mostly... but it's not my headache. People should really keep their stuff updated (and legal). I know that some don't, and have a detection and fix for .PNGs for people with IE6.

And for the millions of people on dial-up as well.

sure, you can order a servicepack on CD for shipping + handling from Microsoft, but realistically -- that service has been available for a long time, but you don't really see people taking advantage of it in droves, do you?

Um, Windows Update doesn't download and install anything unless you let it.

? There really are ppl like that? [just joking] Seriously, such ppl should get the updates using faster connections on libraries, unis, at work or just borrow bandwidth fom their friends. And ADSL is cheaply available for ppl who are stuck with phonelines and stone age tech...

Any word on the code-side of things? is IE 7 not broken? Does it at least render correctly now?

Of course.

when's the last time your grandma went to the library to download a windows service pack?

somehow I find it more likely that they put a sticker over the corner of their screen so they won't have to look at the "critical updates available!" popup all the time.

Ignorance is bliss. But the bottom line: There are literally *millions* of people out there who aren't going to be updating any time soon. If anything, their computers will slowly slow up due to spyware, to be replaced by 'new' computers that will be running great for a couple of months, until they too are vulnerable to the latest batch of exploit. Rinse & repeat.

Xlsior

How do you think PC companies make all their money? And by extension, MS.

So, why would they want to make upgrading simple or easy or fast?

Well I guess that's true, if you include enabling automatic updates as letting it. I don't get to pick and choose or even get prior notice of specific updates. By the time I hear about it, they've already been downloaded and installed, and Windows wants to reboot to install them.

I guess it's no hardship with the amount of time I use IE, but that backspace "bug" is really annoying.

Is anyone else having trouble accessing FTP sites with IE7? Keep getting a page not found error.

I get that a lot with random sites (such as this one some times) but I'm not sure if it's IE7, a shorter time out period or my ISP. It's a bit weird.

Jim Brown, is that true? I'm freaked out now.

I don't have IE7 myself, but I know that the following can cause such problems under IE6:

Under Internet Options -> Advanced (Or whatever the IE7 equivalent is), do you have a check in front of 'use passive FTP (for firewall and DSL modem compatibility)' ?

There are a few hiden folders which Windows Explorer is designed not to view such as Content.IE5, History.IE5

Try this (WinXP/Win98):

1) Download Turbo Navigator
2) Browse into these folders and look for INDEX.DAT ..

a) c:\windows\temporary internet files
b) c:\windows\application data\temporary internet files
c) c:\windows\local settings\temporary internet files\
d) c:\windows\application data\microsoft\internet explorer\user data
e) c:\Documents and Settings\OWNERS NAME\Local Settings\temporary internet files\

3) Open up the INDEX.DAT file with UltraEdit or a similar program

There you will see various links to sites you have visited etc ..

Note that you cannot delete the Index.Dat file since the O/S has conveniently locked it.

Try Index.dat in the History/History.IE5 folder too.


Makes you wonder why Microsoft chose to hide this information in SO MANY locations hey(?!)

I did check it out and your right. But why lock it? And why do I need it? Who is going to need those files? Is microsoft coming to my house to say "Hey, how about those files?" If it served a purpose, like running a program, I'd say keep it. But I dont think its needed.Hmm Your right Jim, it does make me wonder.

ps, I did download IE7. Were is the hype? Actually, it almost looks like they took some features away. Even though they didn't.

You can delete the index.dat file if you boot up to C: prompt and do it that way.

Then, create a new index.dat file and set it to read-only. That'll stop internet explorer adding anything to it.

Simonh, I have the same problem, really not sure why? Every time I log on, I see that message regardless. IE7 still works though.

IIRC, it changes the read-only attribute and goes right on ahead and writes to it.

Not sure how many people here will be able to boot to c:\ if their windows machine is on an NTFS partition, though it is possible. NTDos or something I think it was called. :)

Actually, FreeDos did it :)

It didn't when I did it.

Please, for the love of god, if you're not already using a different browser, go and get this right away, so IE 6 can finally die the discraceful death that it has been avoiding the last 7 years. Make sure everyone you know downloads it aswell, and make sure everyone they know does the same.

There are over 7000 rendering and layout bugs fixed in this version and while I'm sure there are still a few oddities around, there is no way it can be as bad as the piece of shit that is IE6.

Actually, I kinda like the new IE7....kinda like Firefox except...thats it not!

Hmm... I've read the page listing the _new_ features and they sound pretty much like the _old_ Firefox features... I see no reason for switching back to IE. The new Firefox has got lots of other features ( http://www.mozilla-europe.org/en/products/firefox/ spellchecking for instance) also IE7 still lacks.

The file is locked thanks to the integration of IE and Windows itself... The Windows Explorer & desktop use the same core system as internet explorer, so merely booting up windows in graphical mode will launch parts of IE, leading to that wonderful locked file.

You can delete it by either booting in recovery console (text mode), or logging in as a different user that has administrative privileges so it can remove the file from your original user's home directory.

OK then, change permissions to Deny access for Everyone. =]