NIF v20

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What tools exist to convert Nif v20 to 3ds, (Or .x I suppose)

I assume it'll be plugins, so what software would I need to edit them, so preferable plugins for free/very cheap soteware

Exactly what do you think you are doing?

I rather think you had best leave those Nif files alone.

I've made a note of this.

Not trying to plunder Civilisation 4 are you?

Yep ;)

Oh come on Puki, you are the king of graphics ripping, so you MUST know how

I rather think I can convert them to any format.

But you are keeping it a secret?

I haven't got CIV4 - so I can't know for sure.

But I have, so you could tell me how you think it would be done, then I could do it, then tell you if you were right

Having said that - there is a demo of it on January 2006's PC format cover disk - I'll install it and take a look.

Ok, that sounds fair.

Then you can tell me if it would be easier to rip the "Total war: Rome" Graphics.

I've got inside the PAK file and extracted it - I can definetley convert these to .3DS or to .X files.




I TOTALLY DOMINATE.

What about aoe3 stuff then? ;O)

Interesting. I have that, reinstalling it now (whilst watching the football).

what app is that puki?

In fact, with AOE3 there is a whole directory of AI scripts - most interesting.

I'm working on the archives now - there are 3 of them.

Looks like Deep Exploration to me.

Yep, it does look like it but I bet he won't get into them with that! I was looking it all over a week or so back as I felt like a look around some AOE stuff, with a view to making some high res ones of my own and then making some cute photo real type renders of them. It's one of the few games I really like.

Puki,

Are you not going to tell me how to do it?
Can you also get the animation frames or not?

Are you not going to tell me how to do it?

He's not, but I am. NIF is the Net Immerse format, used by Morrowind and Oblivion, among others. There are a bunch of tools for this format. I've only experience with the Max pipeline, but there are Blender and Maya methods too, perhaps more. Have a look.

http://www.niftools.org/wiki/index.php/NIF_File_Format_Library_and_Tools

Sorry H&K, I may have accidentally got him a bit busy, that wasn't intended at all. It's a real so and so to get into, I'd be pretty amazed if he can even do it. Shame as it'd be really neat to make some higher poly versions, just for fun and to see if I can do it well.

@Gab,

Mirrowind and Oblivion use the Nif v10 (Or some such), but Civ uses Nif V20, and as far as Ive been able to assertain, you cannot get the full amination frames useing the tools you would use for Nif v10.
I had a look before I posted here, but to be honest I didnt understand most of it.

Ah, they are Granny files. Still looking.

Right, with the AOE3 files - the static meshes can be exported - animated stuff cannot.

The downside is you need 3ds MAX to import the scripts. However, gmax may be a route.

You got in? For real? Screenie? ;O)

What's in the static stuff? I only do/need stills, so this is still pretty good news! ;O)

I don't got a granny, is this a problem?

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loathe and detest using max or it's kid brother, how dependant is all this on using it? Besides I'd have to get a mate to sort it, and that's really over complicating things given this was just for fun in the first place! ;O)
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This is 'house_generic_c_deathModel.gr2':

You can reconstruct that yourself - I haven't got 3ds Max.


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create()


Puki I need to drop you a line is that addy valid in the profile?

I'm not sure what that lot above is, but I got a suspicion about what it might be, however I doubt that makes for helpful or interesting reading in here for most people.

Hence I'd like to drop you that line.

I'd like a prize please - the file was successfully extracted to useable geometry data. It was claimed that I couldn't do it.

In fact, I rather think I have rather over-dominated for one day.

Exclusive photoreals when they are done? I was not going to let them into the wild, but could under the circumstances. You forogt to mention the addy status. ;O)

I really must lie down now - the weight of my head is too much.

OK, fair enough, I guess not then, thanks anyway.

Hey, puki, when you done snoozing, what do I need to tell my mate to try to get a granny open in max or it's sibling.

Can't possibly mean to go get a copy of granny from rad, that's a bit steep last time I heard!

I managed to get a look in that art bar thing though and sure enough that's full of blooming gr2, which I'm guessing are those grannys.

Oh and DragonUP?

Why does Puki remind me of Strong Bad?

Go on then, I'll buy it; Why?

Who? Where? What? Strong Bad?