Console + HDTV = Bad idea.

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'Gaming Lag' ... new hype? :p
Anyhoo, hardware problems abound with many HDTV's out there appearantly. So watch what you throw your money away for.

Why not just stick with the technology that works almost flawlessly right now?

Enay,

Yeah and the range of games on a PC is far greater (currently) too.

IPete2.

eh... I have a dlp and don't see any lag at all on my pc hooked up via DVI. I haven't tried an xbox 360 or ps2 though.

Haven't noticed any trouble with my X360 or GameCube yet (yeah, I know, Nintendo doesn't want to support HDTV with either the GameCube OR Wii, but I'm hooked into the 32" Westinghouse LCD anyway). The X360 and GameCube never took any tolls on my 32" monster yet, and it seems to cause very little trouble. With today's LCDs, if you hook your console (X360) into the component port, then you have no problems, since it works natively with technology like LCDs and DLPs, etc... I really can't say much about the GameCube, other than it just takes the standard def, and stretches it out, but still a small letterbox on the edges. I guess for the widescreen from the GC, it seems to do 15:9, not 16:9, which my TV ratio is 16:9 aspect ratio. There's a little science to this, gotta figure it out.

Speaking of which, in my new siggy, I'm looking to develop Blitz games in high-def myself, just better make sure I can work with the bigger resolutions okay...

Just about everyone has HDTV around here, and the government just passed a bill recently that amounts to $3billion to provide Californians without HDTV a box that converts HDTV to something a normal TV can display.

Around here most people seem to have 2 HDTV televisions. I havent much use for one myself since we don't have any TV here and rarely watch any video's anymore.

One of the reasons I havent bought an Xbox 360 is there isn't much point without a proper TV that supports the higher resolutions. You can get a HDTV for about $600 now but add a 360 and your talking $1000. And I'd rather get a new PC for that ammount.

yeah, your sig is a High Def Atari graphic that my monitor struggles to fit on. ;) haha.

I have a 26" Samsung HDTV - it came with a 'Game Mode', I've not noticed any problems - although, I've hardly used it for playing games. In fact, I didn't notice any problems when not putting it in 'Game Mode'.

@RAM: you sig hurts my eyes.

@kanati: it works fine with VGA and DVI, the problem occurs with the other inputs.

Well, I'm gonna change that Pong-like sig to match the grid from Geometry Wars, actually... That was just a trial tile grid to see what a high-def version of Pong would look like using the Geometry Wars influence on it... Oh Microsoft, why'd i turn to you for game design influence?! There, blue wireframe grid with a spinning star being hit by two plasma paddles... What more do ya want?


What more do ya want?


Smaller images with a retina safe colour scheme.

Well, you asked so... ;)

Yeah, they're smaller than they have been, but still want to keep that 15:9 and 16:9 look to the sig banners, and they're easier on the eyes (after all, the blue grid is about the same as Geometry Wars - Evolved, as well as the green paddles being like that of some Pong games that're out there)...

Back on topic now, don't want to start arguments, I've been there, and it ain't pretty... Now... You were asking about consoles and high def not being the best of combinations. Well, seeing how this can be the case, I'd start off by saying that, if you have a component or DVI, you may be in okay shape. Most of today's graphics cards do support HDTVs if they carry a DVI input, and that they are natively widescreen-based cards. As for consoles, the X360 and PS3 are both HD out of the box, just as long as you use the component input with those. If you use the standard A/V, THEN that's where you may start running into ghosting problems. Just like with the PS2, original Xbox, or GameCube, or any other console prior to that, Dreamcast, too, you will have those ghosts, and possibly dead pixels from playing those games for a little while. Also, playing on plasmas or CRT rear projections are the biggest no-no of the bunch, so there's my tips on that. Right now, LCDs are okay, just as long as you use those inputs, as well as DLPs. Outside of that, no other form of HDTV will really do well for gaming at this point. There's my two bits, so there... :D

I got my 26" Widescreen HDTV for $450 and it looks great with the 360. Definitely a world of difference from standard resolution.

Friend of mine just bought a nice-looking Toshiba 42" LCD which he's mounted on the wall.

I will laugh my ninnies off if he can't play Xbox :)

Hmm, 42" LCD, try a 100" front projector screen, DLP no less, either that, or paint a flat wall all white and project a game on there, and see what happens.

I looked at buying a projector but worked out that each hour of use equates to 50 pence worth of bulb lifetime used. I'll stick with my little 24" Dell :)

Well, if you must go plasma, why not go for the biggest screen in the world? http://www.i4u.com/article4860.html

Every TFT laggs. i never gona use a TFT. specialy then playing mario 2d games.

Currently using FlatCrt 32.. weight 80 kg. so its about my weight (iam 31)

if i go HDTV it will be plasma. and there is no cheap plasma HDTV yet.

Good TFT's only lag as much as good CRT's. Remember, CRT's these days don't just decode signals and output them. They process them digitally which means there's going to be at least as much processing delay in a CRT as there is pixel-updating delay in a TFT.

I would certainly have noticed lag with my Dell when playing on the 360, or FEAR on the PC. Even though it's an 8ms panel and you can see ghosting when moving your mouse pointer around, watching 1920x1080 HD films is very enjoyable and gaming is at least as good as on my old Iiyama 454 19" CRT.

Infact, it's a better quality TFT than those used in the Nintendo DS, and that was designed for games (and still manages to look swish).