N64 Emulation test

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Removed now, thanks for the little test people.

Come here to play Super Mario 64 in your browser (for a limited time) :

http://www.exigolive.com/exigo/

U: test_user
P: test_user

EXe Indiepath GO or EXtract Indiepath GO or x Immediately y?

Doesn't work on... ;O)

Um, note. Don't play this unless you own a Mario64 Cartridge :-)

ALso, it crashes IE here, when trying to install Exigo.

Indiepath, Please grab someone's demo ROM or something. NOT Mario64.

Is piracy allowed on here?

I got music only. No image.

> Is piracy allowed on here?

I dunno, but emulation these days seems to activate some sort of invulnerability cheat towards piracy.

By providing and allowing to emulate this Nintendo ROM, this is indeed piracy. It's not really any different from providing copied CD's.

Still, I recon this is a good idea, and I suppose it's ok for a test :)

Got:

Bad ROM ? check for update unknown.. yaydayadada - I do have a Mario 64 cartridge and some...

OK thanks - down now :)

Blitplotter,

I do have a Mario 64 cartridge and some...

me too!

IPete2.

'and some' what?

I have the cartridge so it's no issue for me :)

I doubt a disclaimer will cut it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you effectively allowing anyone to download the game ROM as part of the process?

If i would be a certain kind of lawyer you could see some $$$$ in my eyes...

@ big10p - numerous other N64 cartridges (IPete2 caught my drift...), one of note is Perfect Dark, a game that was heralded as N64's saviour for a while - but they just took too long to get it out there, I believe they released a PC incarnation recently... Apparently Nintendo have scored big with the DS Sales.

Off topic ? Sorry.....

Nintendo are the worst folks to annoy by running emulation. They really do not like it. A lot of torrent sites that carry multi-emulation stuff do not carry any Nintendo stuff at all for fear of retribution.

Yeah don't host any ROMs. You could link to some ROM sites with a disclaimer to only download if you own the original.

I doubt owning the original carries any weight really. Not that anyone is going to get sued for downloading - it isn't a criminal offence and it wouldn't be worth the effort.

But offering a ROM for download *is* a criminal offence.

Yeah, it's ridiculous, what would you do if I put Geom up for download? Why is this any different?

Bah, you're making a mountain out of a molehill. Besides, copywrite laws only benefit the wealthy, the privileged and souless corporations, and they stifle creativity and innovation.

Leave im alone, it was just a test! :) and I found it cool in a web-browser. Don't you?


copywrite laws only benefit the wealthy, the privileged and souless corporations



Wrong. :)

Nonsense. Many of us here rely on those laws to make our living.

I'm not attacking Indiepath, but this is quite an interesting subject that many people seem confused about.

I'd be interested to know what possible legal application there could be for an N64 emulator in a browser.

John Pickford wrote:
Nonsense. Many of us here rely on those laws to make our living.

And that's a real shame. Does the fact that you gain monetary benefit from an unfair system make it right?

Cygnus wrote:
Wrong.:)

I've seen with my own eyes how the lack of copywrite enforcement directly improve the standard of living for people in developing countries. So, respectfully, I disagree.

>And that's a real shame. Does the fact that you gain monetary benefit from an unfair system make it right?

I don't consider it to be unfair.

I'd be interested to know what possible legal application there could be for an N64 emulator in a browser.

If GameTap can get a license then I will sure as hell try.

I don't consider it to be unfair

But, as I said, that might be because you benefit from it. Hah, I think we're going around in circles here.

What's gametap?


I've seen with my own eyes how the lack of copywrite enforcement directly improve the standard of living for people in developing countries



Ah, developing countries- Thats right. I do agree with that, but I was thinking of in our own country, people like you and me, if we protect our copyrights, we can help ourselves.

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Gametap:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=gametap&meta=

Nonsense. Many of us here rely on those laws to make our living.
How? How do copyright laws effect you or your income personally?

I don't consider it to be unfair.
You don't think it's unfair that if I wanted to play wetris in 80 years or so, I would be a criminal, because my cartridge has degraded, and my N64 only barely works now, never mind 80 years from now. Maybe it's time to revisit our old Wetris on abandonware sites debate again?

Just because Disney lack the imagination to come up with new original characters and stories (it's only plagiarism if you get caught and convicted, right), I'm not allowed to play games that I've purchased, because the media they're stored on do not out-last copyright?

Originally, Copyright lasted 7 years, and where it not for laws twisted way beyond their original meaning and intent, Mario64 would have entered the public domain by now (being 10 years old).

>You don't think it's unfair that if I wanted to play
>wetris in 80 years or so, I would be a criminal, because
>my cartridge has degraded, and my N64 only barely works
>now, never mind 80 years from now. Maybe it's time to
>revisit our old Wetris on abandonware sites debate again?

You wouldn't be a criminal. Copying for personal use is a minor civil matter.

Copying for personal use is a minor civil matter.
So how would I go about copying a N64 cartridge then? It's not like you can just buy spare (empty) cartridges and burners at the local supermarket. And even tho' the act of copying itself might not be illegal, the act of circumventing copy protection (which would be nessecary in order to copy it in the first place) is. At least in the US, and by the time I'm 110 - most likely in Denmark too.

Hey, stuff wears out. Deal with it.

The site now contains a C64 emulator, no roms just the emulator. Drag and drop .d64 files into it to play. It's a bit unstable but that's to be expected :)

Btw, I've already got permission from several of the old C64 developers to provide their games as ROMS on the new site (whatever that might be called). I've also been granted permission to freely use and modify the source of a C64 Emulator to my requirements.

Stuff does indeed wear out. All your data are belong to entropy, given enough time.

Move on.

All your base are belong to us. You know what you doing. Move 'zig.' For great justice.

@Indiepath
May i ask why i should drag game files on a webbrowser when i do have the emulator already running on my machine?! I'm not changing computers this fast...when was it the last time M$ and SUN suggestesd to store all our data and/or apps on other peoples servers...

@taumel,

A number of the old C64 developers are looking to develop a web-based arcade. They want a system, like eXigo, where you can login to a site, visit a page and play a game. They want it to be automatic, no downloads (apart from the plugin).

For example, go here : http://www.c64.com/ , now click on a game. What is proposed is that the game, if there is a license, will boot up and be ready for playing in that little window you see the screenshot in. Well not that little window but one like it :)

Can you name some of these old guys?!

They're not old, they are about the same age as me.

Hey that's what i said...old! ;O)

By the way you don't have to explain the advantages of providing online content to me as i'm doing this since 8 years by now. I just was wondering where the advantage is when playing something in the browser which i already have locally on my machine.

If it works comes down to the content. If you have good games it could do well...