Well it was posponed on Sat and Sun, but after a days rest they are going to launch today at 2:38PM EST which is 19:38BST I think. Google it and you should be able to get Nasa TV showing it live ... fingers crossed.
Who's watching the shuttle launch?
Miscellaneous Forums/General Discussion/Who's watching the shuttle launch? While you wait, you can play around with this Orbiter addon:
http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2419
Looks better than we'll see on TV :)
There's also Endeavour and Atlantis, so you could stage the inevitable auto-guided rescue mission, too :P
http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=2419
Looks better than we'll see on TV :)
There's also Endeavour and Atlantis, so you could stage the inevitable auto-guided rescue mission, too :P
i am... got it on the tube, and got a feed on one of my monitors http:// www.nasa.gov
i'm a big fan of this stuff... since i was a kid i followed the space launches religiously...
i'm kinda apprehensive at this point though... i don't wanna see any unexpected 4th of july fireworks...
hope all goes smoothly...
--Mike
i'm a big fan of this stuff... since i was a kid i followed the space launches religiously...
i'm kinda apprehensive at this point though... i don't wanna see any unexpected 4th of july fireworks...
hope all goes smoothly...
--Mike
Yeah, you know they had some foam come off already but deem it to be safe. Hope the astronaughts feel brave!
their solution to the external tank thermal issue is absurd...
... whoever heard of a thermos bottle with the insulation on the outside... i'm just wondering what engineering genius signed off on that... it was bound to become an issue eventually.
anyways... i hope everything goes good, and they make it into orbit successfully.
--Mike
... whoever heard of a thermos bottle with the insulation on the outside... i'm just wondering what engineering genius signed off on that... it was bound to become an issue eventually.
anyways... i hope everything goes good, and they make it into orbit successfully.
--Mike
I think it's scary that they don't consider it a problem that the shuttle isn't built to withstand moisture like it experienced when it was sitting outside during a storm.
If they know it's not meant to withstand this weather, why did they leave it out there? It's a hugely expensive space shuttle; I'm sure a bit of time and money to keep it protected would save a lot in the long run.
Regarding this, they say that it's reassuring that the problem was not because of the design, but the environment.
This implies that the shuttle is built to run entirely within a vaccuum, since as we speak it is sitting in "the environment", which it is supposedly meant to survive in.
It's not very harsh down here, but flying through the atmosphere at the high speeds that it does could be different, making me wonder, as a result of that quote, if the engineers considered moisture at all when they designed the shuttle.
...Of course, I'm not saying I know more than them; I just crashed Discovery 4 times in the last half hour, one of which crippled ISS.
If they know it's not meant to withstand this weather, why did they leave it out there? It's a hugely expensive space shuttle; I'm sure a bit of time and money to keep it protected would save a lot in the long run.
Regarding this, they say that it's reassuring that the problem was not because of the design, but the environment.
This implies that the shuttle is built to run entirely within a vaccuum, since as we speak it is sitting in "the environment", which it is supposedly meant to survive in.
It's not very harsh down here, but flying through the atmosphere at the high speeds that it does could be different, making me wonder, as a result of that quote, if the engineers considered moisture at all when they designed the shuttle.
...Of course, I'm not saying I know more than them; I just crashed Discovery 4 times in the last half hour, one of which crippled ISS.
as the shuttle assembly accelerates past a certain speed, the atmosphere never touches the actual vehicle...
the nose cones on top of each of the tanks, the shuttle itself, and the leading edges of the wings, forces most of the air away from the structure, sort of a laminar effect...
the foam problem coming loose is most likely the result of vibration caused by the rockets... not 100 on that though...
--Mike
the nose cones on top of each of the tanks, the shuttle itself, and the leading edges of the wings, forces most of the air away from the structure, sort of a laminar effect...
the foam problem coming loose is most likely the result of vibration caused by the rockets... not 100 on that though...
--Mike
5 mins
What is the actual web-cam link for the live view?
I've got it - I've got it.
woo, woo, woo, woo.
woo, woo, woo, woo.
This is fantastic the picture quality and update speed are amazing.
90 seconds
I'm recording the feed.
10 seconds
10 seconds
Lift off
Isn't this exciting!
Instrumentation issue - not thought to be serious.
AWESOME! so at 17,000mph it will break free of Earth.
yup... great stuff... great cam views...
--Mike
--Mike
External tank separation due soon. This should be good.
What are those flames?
External tank separation.
it might just be the amosphere on fire at that speed.
Hey, the recording of the footage worked - I'm leaving it running, but it only took 12MB to get to the present time.
in space there is no pressure... the flames are the exhaust plasma from the shuttles main engines...
it goes out farther than it would in the atmosphere...
looks like they're go for orbit... coool...
--Mike
it goes out farther than it would in the atmosphere...
looks like they're go for orbit... coool...
--Mike
how did you record it?
Video footage is coming up to 20MB - I cannot believe how good the quality (sound and audio) is and how low the filesize is. I will sell this to ITV and the BBC.
I used NetTransport.
Right, I'm off to watch the footy - I'll leave it recording the footage.
It's already live with a small delay on the BBC website.
don't try to sell it to anyone puk... the broadcast is probably copyrighted, and terms of use would explicitly prohibit such sales...
:)
okkkkaaaayyyy... that was coooooool...
--Mike
:)
okkkkaaaayyyy... that was coooooool...
--Mike
Oh, I was going to upload it onto Google video and YouTube.
It is up to 35MB now.
It is up to 35MB now.
GOD! I wish they would stop showing repeats of everything I have already recorded - I'll have to edit this sucker for when it docks with the space station. I don't want to stop recording in case I miss it explode or something else exciting.
Payload door will open in around 45 minutes from now.
Grey,
Thanks for the link, I missed the launch this time. But I can see NASA control now - great stuff!
IPete2.
Thanks for the link, I missed the launch this time. But I can see NASA control now - great stuff!
IPete2.
Mmm, I just noticed they sometimes cut the sound - like they don't want us to hear what is being said between the shuttle and ground control.
ok, now that the crew is safely in orbit... a few thoughts and important questions on this whole space shuttle/space station thingee...
1- what's the deal here... they got this giant, multi billion dollar space station in orbit... and only 2 people on board it!!??
heck... when the Enterprise was in space dock, they had hundreds of people, and other things, on board...
that's the idea that comes to mind when i hear the phrase international space station... a big place with lots of people...
2- where's the bar... why don't they ever show the bar... i know they have one up there, just like the bar on Deep Space 9...
every space station has to have a bar, cmon now, they're gonna be up there for 6 months... 6 months without a drink...
why didn't they let this mission carry up the Jack Daniels module for the ISS...
3- tourist flights... what's the deal with the delay for buying a ticket to the ISS... at least the Russians were good enough to take tourists up, but nasa just doesn't seem interested... i bet ya Virgin Atlantic will offer tourist spots on their shuttle...
... and i'm sure that their space station will have a bar module too.
--Mike
1- what's the deal here... they got this giant, multi billion dollar space station in orbit... and only 2 people on board it!!??
heck... when the Enterprise was in space dock, they had hundreds of people, and other things, on board...
that's the idea that comes to mind when i hear the phrase international space station... a big place with lots of people...
2- where's the bar... why don't they ever show the bar... i know they have one up there, just like the bar on Deep Space 9...
every space station has to have a bar, cmon now, they're gonna be up there for 6 months... 6 months without a drink...
why didn't they let this mission carry up the Jack Daniels module for the ISS...
3- tourist flights... what's the deal with the delay for buying a ticket to the ISS... at least the Russians were good enough to take tourists up, but nasa just doesn't seem interested... i bet ya Virgin Atlantic will offer tourist spots on their shuttle...
... and i'm sure that their space station will have a bar module too.
--Mike
Where's the empaths in tight suits encouraging crew members to go to naked weddings?
IPete2: Shoulda emailed you, sorry about that. Watched it with my 5 and 2 year olds. The best bit is ignition, it's way cool!
IPete2: Shoulda emailed you, sorry about that. Watched it with my 5 and 2 year olds. The best bit is ignition, it's way cool!
No problems Grey, I was privileged to be there for an actual launch and see STS107 go up a couple of years ago (the one that never made it back), the single most impressive thing is the sound. I remember the air cracking because the sound is sooooo loud.
I have it all on video (well most - I wanted to watch with my own eyes so I guessed most of it! lol), the sight is fantastic and yet very sad in that case too!
I'm glad these guys are safe so far, and Im just watching the the news conference now.
I remember watching the shuttle cargo bay days opening on my Amiga! Yes you heard it (it was black and white) I actually had to wake my wife and we sat in amazement as a 56K modem pulled images from space live. It was about 10 years ago as I rememeber.
IPete2.
I have it all on video (well most - I wanted to watch with my own eyes so I guessed most of it! lol), the sight is fantastic and yet very sad in that case too!
I'm glad these guys are safe so far, and Im just watching the the news conference now.
I remember watching the shuttle cargo bay days opening on my Amiga! Yes you heard it (it was black and white) I actually had to wake my wife and we sat in amazement as a 56K modem pulled images from space live. It was about 10 years ago as I rememeber.
IPete2.
Ooh, there is a piece of skirt now sitting in the bottom right seat - I saw her earlier every so often - she has now taken over that post.
I'll keep a close eye on her.
I'll keep a close eye on her.
Has the Shuttle blown up? I've lost all footage for about 10-15 minutes now. Anyone see anything?
Cool stuff indeed :o)
I witnessed a shuttle launch myself in Florida 1993,
one of the things I will NEVER ever forget !!
Last about 90 secs but the memory of it is eternal.
Like IPete2 also points out, the sound is spectacular !!!
I witnessed a shuttle launch myself in Florida 1993,
one of the things I will NEVER ever forget !!
Last about 90 secs but the memory of it is eternal.
Like IPete2 also points out, the sound is spectacular !!!
It's just been advertised on UK news now, and they say it's supposedly got problems.
Puki:
Didn't you notice? They didn't tell us what the antifreeze is made of!
:P
Didn't you notice? They didn't tell us what the antifreeze is made of!
:P
IPete2: Wow I bet it was amazing. Sad that they did the mission but exploded on reentry. I read a Jeremy Clarkson book where he saw a launch and someone said it's pretty loud and he said nah it'll be fine, but the noise was immense and he was really surprised!
Well the cargo doors are open, did they deploy some satellites? I read they weren't going to do any more commercial stuff to avoid the pressure.
As for problems, things are fine but some debris did fall off the external fuel tank put they think the shuttle is OK. I'd brick it though if I was the crew.
Well the cargo doors are open, did they deploy some satellites? I read they weren't going to do any more commercial stuff to avoid the pressure.
As for problems, things are fine but some debris did fall off the external fuel tank put they think the shuttle is OK. I'd brick it though if I was the crew.
Grey,
I can't really descibe the sound - it is like the air breaks because it can't cope. It crackles and pops - fantastic to witness - if you get the chance you should do it.
It is over so quick though and of course you see it before you hear it - thats wierd too.
IPete2.
I can't really descibe the sound - it is like the air breaks because it can't cope. It crackles and pops - fantastic to witness - if you get the chance you should do it.
It is over so quick though and of course you see it before you hear it - thats wierd too.
IPete2.
I'd love to see it one day. I'll just add it to my ambition list ;-)
Like you guys I was lucky to see a launch when I was over there, and it was unforgettable.
Thousands of people all counting down in unison, then throwing their arms up as it took off, as if willing it to get up there - nothing preplanned, just thousands of people reacting to the event.
Trust me, if you can see it, it _will_ reduce you to tears of joy.
Thousands of people all counting down in unison, then throwing their arms up as it took off, as if willing it to get up there - nothing preplanned, just thousands of people reacting to the event.
Trust me, if you can see it, it _will_ reduce you to tears of joy.
Anything exciting happen since I have been asleep? Have I missed anything?
I thought this mission was meant to dock with the space station - has it already happened? I wanted to see that bit.
I thought this mission was meant to dock with the space station - has it already happened? I wanted to see that bit.
Oh, that is about to happen soon - they are talking about it now.
I think is was supposed to dock on Thursday... Not totally sure though.
Did they do this streaming NASA TV thing for the two shuttle missions that exploded?
They didn't stream for the first exploded one as that was ages ago and the Internet would have been pap. They may have for the last one but the technology is much better since then (2003 I think).
Yeah I think the docking isn't for a little while. Also they are going to rotate the craft so the people in the space station can check the underside for damaged caused by foam coming of the fuel tank.
What's more worrying at the moment is Korea testing long range missiles, nice. Things is the west condemns it but this is really a case of pot calling the kettle black, methinks.
Yeah I think the docking isn't for a little while. Also they are going to rotate the craft so the people in the space station can check the underside for damaged caused by foam coming of the fuel tank.
What's more worrying at the moment is Korea testing long range missiles, nice. Things is the west condemns it but this is really a case of pot calling the kettle black, methinks.
Hey, when they put humans on mars, will they change the suit colour from orange so they are more visible I wonder?
the thin atmoshphere and different light conditions on mars will probably cause the orange colors to look a bit different... some of those color shots of the matian surface are color enhanced, for public consumption...
space, the final frontier, does not look like this...
and the martian surface certainly does not look like this...
these are all color substituted and enhanced photos... for a gullible and mostly ignorant public that expects to see a red mars...
read this for a better perspective --> http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/MARSCLRS.html
--Mike
space, the final frontier, does not look like this...
and the martian surface certainly does not look like this...
these are all color substituted and enhanced photos... for a gullible and mostly ignorant public that expects to see a red mars...
read this for a better perspective --> http://www.donaldedavis.com/PARTS/MARSCLRS.html
--Mike
I found the NASA TV audio for the shuttle disaster (the one that exploded on re-entry):
pnm://media.chron.com/content/chronicle/03/02/13/fintran.rm
At 4m.20s into the commentary (whilst the NASA TV guy is talking - you hear someone from the shuttle saying 'Feelin the heat'.
Here is the actual NASA GC link (this is not running through NASA TV) so you only hear the Shuttle and GC:
http://www.2bdfilms.com/features/flightloop.wma
pnm://media.chron.com/content/chronicle/03/02/13/fintran.rm
At 4m.20s into the commentary (whilst the NASA TV guy is talking - you hear someone from the shuttle saying 'Feelin the heat'.
Here is the actual NASA GC link (this is not running through NASA TV) so you only hear the Shuttle and GC:
http://www.2bdfilms.com/features/flightloop.wma
Puki,
How do you setup NetTransport..I've been playing around with no success.
Regards,
Eric
How do you setup NetTransport..I've been playing around with no success.
Regards,
Eric
I use it with Firefox and the 'Flash Got All' plug-in.
From this page:
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/sts-121_front/index.html
I click 'Watch NASA TV' - to get the smaller window.
On that page I 'right-click' (but not on the video window) and select 'FlashGot All'
I then deselect all apart from the 55644main_NASATV.....
From this point NetTransport takes over from Firefox and Flash Got All.
From this page:
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/sts-121_front/index.html
I click 'Watch NASA TV' - to get the smaller window.
On that page I 'right-click' (but not on the video window) and select 'FlashGot All'
I then deselect all apart from the 55644main_NASATV.....
From this point NetTransport takes over from Firefox and Flash Got All.
The recording will continue to your HD even if you kill Firefox and anything that launched from Firefox. If Firefox crashes then recording will continue (I've had FF crash a few times).
Warning - if you cancel NetTransport at any stage (or pause the recording), you will lose the entire recording. So, before quitting NetTransport, copy the file it is recording - you can copy this whilst it is being written.
In my case it is shoving data to a file called 'Reflector' - I make a copy of it every so often - just in case Net Transport crashes (not that it ever has).
Warning - if you cancel NetTransport at any stage (or pause the recording), you will lose the entire recording. So, before quitting NetTransport, copy the file it is recording - you can copy this whilst it is being written.
In my case it is shoving data to a file called 'Reflector' - I make a copy of it every so often - just in case Net Transport crashes (not that it ever has).
In fact forget about the above - try this link in Net Transport:
mms://a300.l2626462687.c26264.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/300/26264/v001/reflector:62687?auth=ca.d.aCdQchcHaNapbYc.ddaQbKd9a3aGbH-beQ7sF-8-9J9Mbi-mLkZk2l4m6nFkbldnVkVk4lb&aifp=v0001&StreamID=26171154&pl_b=00D90C0887ACCADF46201E89EC44ABB49F&Segment=149773&CG_ID=1369080
EDIT:
I hope it isn't a direct link to my session- if I notice any speed problems you'll have to create your own.
mms://a300.l2626462687.c26264.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/300/26264/v001/reflector:62687?auth=ca.d.aCdQchcHaNapbYc.ddaQbKd9a3aGbH-beQ7sF-8-9J9Mbi-mLkZk2l4m6nFkbldnVkVk4lb&aifp=v0001&StreamID=26171154&pl_b=00D90C0887ACCADF46201E89EC44ABB49F&Segment=149773&CG_ID=1369080
EDIT:
I hope it isn't a direct link to my session- if I notice any speed problems you'll have to create your own.
Ahh..I guess I'll have to read the F'in manual. Thanks for trying to help. I'm using Internet Ex. I'll figure it out eventually.
I'll see if I can get it to work with IE.
With IE - right click the video window - select 'Properties'
Paste the Link into Net Trasport (just select 'New' and NT will auto paste it) - my link was http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1369080&segment=149773
Paste the Link into Net Trasport (just select 'New' and NT will auto paste it) - my link was http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1369080&segment=149773
Why can't they use colour cameras in space?
I'm fed up of seeing low-quality black and white footage that looks like it was filmed 50 years ago.
I'm fed up of seeing low-quality black and white footage that looks like it was filmed 50 years ago.
Ok thank puki, that seems to have worked.
Do you know what format it is save in?
Regards,
Eric
Do you know what format it is save in?
Regards,
Eric
I believe it is WMV.
However, if you copy the file now - whilst it is recording. You can stick any extension on the end if it - AVI, MPG, MOV - so stick on any extension that works for whatever media player you are using.
EDIT:
Seems to be an ASF file - the video seems to be WMV3
However, if you copy the file now - whilst it is recording. You can stick any extension on the end if it - AVI, MPG, MOV - so stick on any extension that works for whatever media player you are using.
EDIT:
Seems to be an ASF file - the video seems to be WMV3
Hey, when they put humans on mars, will they change the suit colour from orange so they are more visible I wonder?
You'd like them to change to grey I guess, so man will be a grey alien on Mars ?;o)
I should have mentioned this earlier - I only use 1 'Transport'. If you right-click the file inside Net Transport and select 'Properties' - 'Transports' is in the lower middle of the screen. If you have it set higher to one then I would make a copy of the file at an opportune point then restart from the beginning.
I'm not sure if there will be problems with the file if it is receiving more than one Transport - I mention this as NT defaults to more than one.
So, for safety - everytime you start a new recording session, manually change this value to 1.
I'm not sure if there will be problems with the file if it is receiving more than one Transport - I mention this as NT defaults to more than one.
So, for safety - everytime you start a new recording session, manually change this value to 1.
so man will be a grey alien on Mars ?
heh, yes that would be ironic. Anyone see the docking. It's cool. But I guess the shuttle touching the station must affect the stations rotation and velocity so lots of corrections have to be made.
Cool!
I just completed a simulation of the entire mission :)
I accidentally jettisoned the Leonardo module and one astronaut while getting into orbit, so I had to cancel the autopilot and grab the module with the Canadarm.
I left the astronaut to float away; he was obviously an idiot :P
Other than that screwup, all went well!
I docked with the station manually, attached the module (had to depart and do some frightening maneuvers to do it, since I was equipped with the wrong arm), and - with a combination of autopilot and manual flying - landed back at KSC.
Of course, since I nearly lost the module and left an astronaut to die, as well as firing off the main engines while docked, I would probably be fired.
Great fun :)
I missed the real docking by about 10 minutes, sadly.
I just completed a simulation of the entire mission :)
I accidentally jettisoned the Leonardo module and one astronaut while getting into orbit, so I had to cancel the autopilot and grab the module with the Canadarm.
I left the astronaut to float away; he was obviously an idiot :P
Other than that screwup, all went well!
I docked with the station manually, attached the module (had to depart and do some frightening maneuvers to do it, since I was equipped with the wrong arm), and - with a combination of autopilot and manual flying - landed back at KSC.
Of course, since I nearly lost the module and left an astronaut to die, as well as firing off the main engines while docked, I would probably be fired.
Great fun :)
I missed the real docking by about 10 minutes, sadly.