Do we need another Blitz IDE?

Was thinking if Eddie isn't prepared to release the source to Visual Blitz I may just write my own IDE...

Just wondering what the community think to yet another IDE. Do we need one?

I think we do. I'm not really a fan of Blide and prefer IDE's to be simple much like Visual Blitz and the community Max IDE.

If you're going to write another IDE boiled I'd reckon people would want it to be kept nice and compact, simple and easy to use. It's got to have project loading, function folding and may be method and type folding for max and cas't be cluttered when opened otherwise I won't use it.

If you do decide to write one, Good luck with it. :)

The major function bar none that I look for in an IDE is function folding.

If it has that, it could look like notepad for all I care.

I'm looking for an IDE for Max that works on Linux properly.The standard one is unusable because every time I switch tabs, the view is scrolled back to the top of the code.

Function folding, syntax highlighting, scope highlighting, bracket pair highlighting and not being tied to .Net are things I would look favorably upon ;)

I'd like a nice IDE that is not overkill. I always thought that Protean was a bit too much - a bit bloated for my liking - too much options and stuff for my liking.

"Amon" has stated 'I'd reckon people would want it to be kept nice and compact, simple and easy to use.'. I think so too.


Failing that, why not make some nice Fantasy/RPG models?

puki,

hehe

yes nice and simple - exactly like Visual Blitz

COME ON EDDIE!

When Eddie said he didn't like his teddy, you knew he was a no good kid.

Make one that allows use of B3D,MAX and B+. I'm sure these features together would make a killer IDE

IndiED seems quite good and is my backup IDE, I like BLIDE best but the quickbuild screws up some Bmax compiles.

IndeED supports all the blitz languages too

http://www.blitzbasic.com/toolbox/toolbox.php?tool=88

Too bad it doesn't seem to do function folding... yet.

I would like an IDE with a node based view.

Something liek the bottom art of this image:



This would basically help you see which objects (in OOP) are linked to other objects. So each node would display the nodes name, the field names and the method names. Then, you could see the links coming out into other nodes...etc

I will make a more clearer mockup later.

not just function/scope folding, also custom folding would be handy. In this case the user places open & close 'symbols' and that acts as a scope, whether it makes sense or not.. like a special code after a comment ' .

'[
folded
']

This is handy for large select-case constructions where you might want to hide a large number of cases rather than fold each case seperately..

I´m waiting for Project Studio IDE by Matt Smith.
It looks really cool, with MaxGui designing tools.
Now I'm using Blide, but its some bugs there.

An object based node display like this. Clicking on the nodes would take you to the part of the code where that object is made. It would also be collapseable, so you can get rid of it when not using it.

The green shows fields, the yellow shows methods, and the orange links are inheritance.

I don't think so. Protean rocks.

Not for Blitzmax it doesn't.

I would need an IDE which just works better than the original one:

o Faster interpretation of the code
o Shortcuts which make sense (strg+F4 for closing a window just doesn't make sense for me as i don't have some sort of broken alien fingers...)
o Linenumbers
o Code folding
o Clean style
o ...

If you think about this i'm sure you can come up with lot's of nice features...

we need a good cross-platform one..
(or just improve the standard one)

Yes we do. A Lightweight IDE with all the functionality of Eclipse, please. It needs to be crossplatform (I'm thinking specificly of Linux here) and needs to include at least a basic set of refactoring tools.

I prefer my IDEs be simple, like the B3d one, all it needs though is a couple features & fixes..
(I'd kill for an indent-code button)

'course it aint Max, but, well, you know. :P

I'm looking forward to trying Project Studio IDE. I really liked using Protean and am hoping that PSI will provide a similar experience for BMax. Any progress updates Matt??

http://www.projectstudioide.com/

What about a basic IDE but it has an easy way of adding modules onto it so we all can make our own features that we want?

I think that would be great.

Getting there guys!

It's taken me a lot longer than I expected to finalise the first version, but am getting very close now - I'm very particular about stuff (almost anal at times) so it tends to take a little longer than I think.

I have a few guys lined up to do some testing for me, and then I should have a release not long after that.

It will have a couple of things that will need to wait until the next release (including the GUI stuff as explained on the site - not hard to implement the designer, but expecting the refactoring of the .bmx code to be a little tricker.

I'm currently finalising the stand-alone side of things, which runs as per BlitzIDE where you can open a file and compile, debug etc directly. The more advanced version will contain the project management stuff.

WOAH! A forms designer!!!

I would love to see this...