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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3149611I wonder if they're going to do it retroactively. I'd still like to try out Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory. Oh well, Heroes V will have to do.
like i said, complain to the right people, and complain often and people will start to listen. Lawsuits help too.
I can't wait to see them close doors because noone will use them any more.
<claps hands with glee>
Great news !
Nice one Ubisoft :)
I will actually buy HoM&M now then. How great :D
see.. I'm not a fav of the heroes of might and magic... but I know some people who are.. I'll be sure to tell them to pick this one up for the big price if they want Ubi to keep not using starforce
They might be dropping it to put something worse on. you never know?
yeah, well hopefully starforce will get made an example of. It's nice to have seen oblivion storming the charts without any real protection on. I think game saled have more to do with how good the games are than anything else.
@Evak - my thoughts exactly.
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I just miss the good ol' days where you didn't have to insert disc to play when the game was set to "full" install, which is pretty much every damn PC game out there today as they seem to feel the need to unload 3gb+ of data to your HD and only ever use the disc for unrequired verification to prove you're not a criminal.
(which makes no difference anyway besides annoying the customer, thank god for CD cracks!)
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Dont think there can be anything worse then StarForce boomboom, if there was, no one would be using it due to all the customer complaints.
Urrah piracy!
@xmlspy: if you've read anything lately about Starforce, you wouldn't be making that statement.
Such intrusive systems shouldn't be used by publishers, as it will only serve to harass the ligitimate buyers. Keep in mind that the pirates run on starforce-free cracks/fixed-exe's and what not.
I installed a game demo last week, and found starforce drivers on my system tonight. I immediately uninstalled, but had to remove the "protection" manually.
thats definalty wrong. Putting copy protection on a demo?!
Hello,
I have been on planet Mars for a while - so can someone tell me what exactly have Starforce done to desrve this?
IPete2.
can someone tell me what exactly have Starforce done to deserve this?
Short version:
1) They put a bunch of low-level device driver filters in, which can interfere with perfectly legitimate operations. Some people find that they can no longer burn certain types of CD from their CD burning apps, for example. I'm not talking about illegal copies of copyrighted game media, but no CD's
at all. Ot is known to break compatibility and take away functionality on many systems
2) Uninstalling the 'protected' game will NOT remove the starforce drivers themselves, so if your system is bungled up you either have to get a 3rd party hack to forcefully remove it, or you get to format & reinstall.
3) When one of the game publishing places (forgot the name of it) purposefully decided not to implement any copyright protection schemes like starforce because they said they didn't think they should treat their customer base like criminals, starforce employees 'proved' that that was a bad choice by posting direct links to pirated downloads of the game in question on their official bulletin boards.
remiscent of the old "nice place you have here. shame if anything happened to it. By the way, can I interest you in some fire insurance?")
So, the propaganda surrounding StarForce is finally bearing fruit :)
Go pirates!
the 'problem' with systems like Starforce is that pirates have a *betteR* user experience since they don't have to deal with all the system=breaking hassles, only your paying customers do.
@vinylpusher: "Go pirates!"
Although I just responded to a similar uttering further up, this statement is moot as its not pirates who wants the protection gone, but real customers. Pirates couldn't care less as every game gets fixed some way or another before they bother playing it.
People are only complaining about being treated as pirates by having malware installed on their computer.
its not pirates who wants the protection gone, but real customers.
Exactly. Pirates already have the protection gone.
Why do real customers want it (StarForce) gone? Apart from the few (and it is a few, despite what's being said) who have experienced incompatability with their optical drive, there hasn't been a single verified case of it breaking someone's gear.
Sure, everyone knows someone whose mate's CDROM drive stopped working. Nothing but apocryphal stories.
The whole thing of 'it broke my computer' has been overly exaggerated into the status of urban myth. Something which I'm sure the pirate community hasn't been fast to dispell.
Pirates do want rid of StarForce because they don't like it. Much as they don't like Microsoft, only worse because finally here's a target they can really get their teeth into.
All I know is that I certainly won't be upset by the loss.
Installed game demo (can't remember the exact one, but I think it was SpellForce II, or TOCA). Few days later I tried to burn a CD... Device failed, thought Doh, tinkered for a day or so, then bought another... Also didn't work (getting suspicious now). Installed both writers to another machine, both worked... Hmmm... Clean install, both working again... More Hmmms... installed game, both writers failing. Did XP rollback.. Still failed..... Say what!!!
Only benefit was a clean XP, and spare cd writer!!
Vinylpusher: aside from the widely repoprted problems, there's something inherently wrong in my book to additional bagage installed in the background with a program, that is left behind after uninstalling the application in question. One of the main reasons computers get 'slow' over time is all the excess junk that keeps getting loaded & runs in the background taking up resources, long after the user thinks it's gone.
In a way, they're stealing your CPU cycles & available memory, unless you go through the huge hassle of reloading your entire computer from scratch.
it's also a "gateway drug" of sorts for publishers. If we let them get away with this kind of intrusion or the sony rootkit intrusion then we are only paving the way for them to get even more intrusive in the future.
The same goes for the blu-ray and hd-dvd notion that consumers are going to let the marry a disc to a single player, or destroy the player if the disc has been "tampered with".
There's only so much we should let them do to us before we just say "no more", which is exactly what we are doing with starforce and sony's rootkit scheme.
No more.
Why do real customers want it (StarForce) gone?
Because it breaks Windows, and people don't want to have to install Windows over and over again.
Apart from the few (and it is a few, despite what's being said) who have experienced incompatability with their optical drive, there hasn't been a single verified case of it breaking someone's gear.
No-one is claiming it does. It breaks WINDOWS. Particularly anything to do with CD burning software.
Pirates do want rid of StarForce because they don't like it.
Really? That's odd. The pirates I know love Starforce like an MCSE loves Microsoft. It's pirate job security. It gives them something to do, and more importantly, something to do that makes them look like the good guys.