Internet Explorer 7 Beta
Miscellaneous Forums/General Discussion/Internet Explorer 7 Beta Thanks for the link, but since IE is a total piece of garbage... I'm going to have to say NEXT!
Don't knock it 'til you try it.
I'll try it when it is no longer the most used web browser and therefore the most targeted by hackers.
I will stick to Opera for the time being, with Firefox on standby for when I'm adding stuff to my website (so that the wysiwyg editor works) and IE6 for when I need to pay my council tax online.
I will stick to Opera for the time being, with Firefox on standby for when I'm adding stuff to my website (so that the wysiwyg editor works) and IE6 for when I need to pay my council tax online.
I really am hoping for Microsoft doing well on this as the majority of people still use it, mainly because the current IE is total garbage and easily exploited....as well as the fact it's a pain to code sites for...., it'll make their lives easier in the end.
(even though it'd make it even easier for them if they'd just download Firefox or Opera >.>)
(even though it'd make it even easier for them if they'd just download Firefox or Opera >.>)
Thank for the link Noel. :)
[edit] It wouldn't install. It validated my Windows installation, installed a malicious software remover then crashed. I rebooted and tried again and this time it didn't crash but the installation finished with it saying it couldn't install IE7. :/
Guess I'll have to wait or try and go on a bug hunt.
[edit] It wouldn't install. It validated my Windows installation, installed a malicious software remover then crashed. I rebooted and tried again and this time it didn't crash but the installation finished with it saying it couldn't install IE7. :/
Guess I'll have to wait or try and go on a bug hunt.
its real slow on big pages:
try this in ie7 beta 2: http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=49211
it is REAL slow for me. I dont remember it being that slow in ie6.
try this in ie7 beta 2: http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=49211
it is REAL slow for me. I dont remember it being that slow in ie6.
Works fine here, Diablo. Probably just that you have a slow PC.
Intresting, it works just fine for me in firefox.
I wonder if it still *secretly* hides and indexes every link you visit. Can IE7b users please check their hidden content.ie5 folder to confirm(?)
See Microsofts really hidden files
You might want to use Turbo Navigator which exposes these hidden folders for you.
See Microsofts really hidden files
You might want to use Turbo Navigator which exposes these hidden folders for you.
interesting web page jim.
hrm... just installed it and it's pretty impressive... upon first look that is. I may grow to hate it or love it as I use it. But it imported my favorites from firefox fine and it's running rather quickly. So far... I like.
Cheer again Noel.
I don't see how this is any more relevant to games though than my deleted DrugWar-with-human-bodies suggestion thread ;] dig dig
I don't see how this is any more relevant to games though than my deleted DrugWar-with-human-bodies suggestion thread ;] dig dig
Mine falls under the 'general technical nature' category.
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general&cat=en_us_28cca3eb-7037-4d4f-bde1-d8efee1f1420&lang=en&cr=us
Hmmm... I don't see anything good in that response section.
I don't feel like going through the apparent bother of uninstalling this when I'm done, so could someone please view the following web page in IE7 and tell me if the pages have the same text formatting as in a web browser that does proper CSS? (Are page titles big text? Are titles in sidebars bold? Do links to articles in the full articles view appear big?). You'll probably know if it looks right when you see it.
http://crumbsoftware.f2o.org/DHS/
Hmmm... I don't see anything good in that response section.
I don't feel like going through the apparent bother of uninstalling this when I'm done, so could someone please view the following web page in IE7 and tell me if the pages have the same text formatting as in a web browser that does proper CSS? (Are page titles big text? Are titles in sidebars bold? Do links to articles in the full articles view appear big?). You'll probably know if it looks right when you see it.
http://crumbsoftware.f2o.org/DHS/
Only problem with your site is that the bold text doesn't work.
This is because you're using an element instead of, say, <h1>,<h2>,etc. and spans. Because it's not really valid HTML, it's not guaranteed to work under any circumstances.
This, however, does work:
This is because you're using an element instead of, say, <h1>,<h2>,etc. and spans. Because it's not really valid HTML, it's not guaranteed to work under any circumstances.
This, however, does work:
<html> <head> <style> div#pie { right:10px; width:200px; height:200px; border: 1px solid black; float: right; } span.idxHeader { font-weight:bold; } </style> </head> <body> <div id="pie"> <span class="idxHeader">Header!</span> </div> </body> </html>
I've only heard good things about this, thanks for the link :)
The word thats going around is that its a winner and will take on firefox as far as the casual user goes. But firefox has a little more for the hardcore techie users.
I'm just glad it has proper PNG support.
The word thats going around is that its a winner and will take on firefox as far as the casual user goes. But firefox has a little more for the hardcore techie users.
I'm just glad it has proper PNG support.
Haven't read the whole thread, but in my opinion IE7 is fantastic and the best release since version 4. Thanks for the link Noel.
Im glad that IE7 has caught up with my spiffy browser on the psp (which had tabs from the moment I first tried it! - lol)...
Seriously though, guys if this is a beta - I guess you are the beta testers...so don't forget to tell M/Soft if there are any issues.
IPete2.
Seriously though, guys if this is a beta - I guess you are the beta testers...so don't forget to tell M/Soft if there are any issues.
IPete2.
link is only preview is it not?
I had a "upgrade" of IE to 7.2.13 (or some such silly number) and could not connect with ANY websites... MALWARE... had to remove it entirely and reinstall firefox to get moving again... have 6 back too all working fast and fine now...
Never wanted tabbed browsing and none of the other features seems necessary really...
I had a "upgrade" of IE to 7.2.13 (or some such silly number) and could not connect with ANY websites... MALWARE... had to remove it entirely and reinstall firefox to get moving again... have 6 back too all working fast and fine now...
Never wanted tabbed browsing and none of the other features seems necessary really...
its beta2
Why would you want it when you could use something else like firefox. I hate it when programs 'insist' you install Internet Explorer before installing the actual prog.
> I wonder if it still *secretly* hides and indexes
> every link you visit.
The secret harddrive rapage has been since like IE3, I doubt that's gonna be removed anytime soon.
> I wonder if it still *secretly* hides and indexes
> every link you visit.
The secret harddrive rapage has been since like IE3, I doubt that's gonna be removed anytime soon.
There is no need to change back from FF.
All new features in the IE are copied from FF and Opera.
Also IE has bugs and is WinXP only!
All new features in the IE are copied from FF and Opera.
Also IE has bugs and is WinXP only!
> WinXP only!
LOL!
LOL!
I don't like firefox myself, still come across many pages that don't work with it.
I use Opera. Much more streamlined than Firefox. As for IE7, still evaluating it.
Well, I managed to install IE7 following the advice from a technical support guy at Microsoft. I fired up IE7 and got a BSOD. Tried it again and got another BSOD. I go to uninstall it and it tells me to log in with the account I used to install it with. There is only one account on my system and I'm the Admin of that account. I follow an online article to remove IE7 and remove it but now can't install IE6 again. I call The CS Guy at Microsoft and he tells me he has to charge me for this call. I give my debit card details and get charged £35 odd pounds for him to fix my PC after installing IE7. He asks me if my windows is legal and I verify with him that it is. He tells me to look at some KB article which explains how to install IE6. I look and am unseuccesfull with fixing things. The call mysteriously ends and the line goes dead. I think "ok, I'll call back". I call back and am told theres no details of me ever calling. I call my bank and flag the transaction made with Microshaftyouinthearse as a fraud transaction.
I now have no IE6, can't update my computer, system restore doesn't work, I can't log off as a user or create a new user account, MSN messanger refuses to work, whenever I fire up firefox it tells me it's not the default browser and causes a BSOD, I can't access the search facility on XP and I'm getting 240 million startup errors every time my PC boots in to winfeckXP.
I'm going to have to re-install windows which means all the licenses I have from MSN music will have to be re-issued costing a license credit. I'm gonna have to sit through a ton of updates, software installations and have to backup everything.
All this because I decided to install internet explorer 7.
[edit]Someone help me please, this is catastrophic :/
I now have no IE6, can't update my computer, system restore doesn't work, I can't log off as a user or create a new user account, MSN messanger refuses to work, whenever I fire up firefox it tells me it's not the default browser and causes a BSOD, I can't access the search facility on XP and I'm getting 240 million startup errors every time my PC boots in to winfeckXP.
I'm going to have to re-install windows which means all the licenses I have from MSN music will have to be re-issued costing a license credit. I'm gonna have to sit through a ton of updates, software installations and have to backup everything.
All this because I decided to install internet explorer 7.
[edit]Someone help me please, this is catastrophic :/
> Someone help me please, this is catastrophic :/
/me hugs
I feel your paint Amon. Time to upgrade to Win98 me thinks.
Morale of the story : IE SUCKS!
/me hugs
I feel your paint Amon. Time to upgrade to Win98 me thinks.
Morale of the story : IE SUCKS!
Ill try it when it is no longer the most used web browser and therefore the most targeted by hackers
A huge part of the problem with IE's security vulnerabilities is not just because it's the most commonly used one, it's that it has some huge glaring security holes that are inevitable due to some of the core design choices.
ActiveX for example -- IE is *designed* to essentially launch applications, which then end up with full user-access on the machine in question. No web content should have any business running outside of a sandbox, especially not when such content can launch itself without user interaction, like IE is infamous for allowing.
Personally I gave up on running Beta versions of webbrowsers after beta 7 of Netscape (2 or 3? don't remember).
IE has more than become complacent, after essentially killing of Netscape, they have been sitting around for years staring at their thumbs rather than actually innovating. If that doesn't show why a de-facto monopoly is bad for the general population...
anyway, IE hasn't had much to show for, other than bad design and bugs that go unfixed for the better part of a decade (transparent .PNG support, anyone?) that I've pretty much given up on it.
I use AvantBrowser myself -- freeware, built on the charred carcass of IE with a usable interface on top of it.
I fixed my problem by the way. Had to reinstall everything but now all is ok. Apparently according to MCSR I had a dll called msfeeds.dll that was infected with a virus. It spread to WININET.dll which blocked access to user switching, msn and a whole host of other services. The reason this happened was because I didn't keep my windows up to date and didn't have Automatic updates on. :/
Anyway, installation of IE7 on the new setup went without hitch. I'm testing IE7 now, will let you know if I'll keep it as my default.
:)
P.S Always backup your important Data. I did, and havn't lost anything because of this reinstall. :)
Anyway, installation of IE7 on the new setup went without hitch. I'm testing IE7 now, will let you know if I'll keep it as my default.
:)
P.S Always backup your important Data. I did, and havn't lost anything because of this reinstall. :)
Amon's problem was "infected" msfeeds.dll and my problem with installing IE7 is that I don't have the bloody DLL. How come my windows are working O.K. ;-)
Good ol' Firefox. Never had any problems with that one...
Barney
Good ol' Firefox. Never had any problems with that one...
Barney
Amon's problem was "infected" msfeeds.dll and my problem with installing IE7 is that I don't have the bloody DLL
That's the problem I had at first. I was told to right click the IE7 download and extract the contents to a folder then copy the msfeeds.dll to the windows\system32 folder. After doing that IE7 beta installed fine but didn't work and then all the problems started. :/
I like the big tab thumbnail option. Pretty useful with a lot of pages open :)
Nobody seems to be caring too much, but if anyone thinks WGA is dodgy and wants to bypass it : hexedit update\iecustom.dll and replace the only instance of 0F95 with 0F94. Then run update.exe, not iesetup.exe.
What's more generally technical than the human body? We still don't know how the brain works. That runs on electricity. Of sorts =]
Because Internet Explorer is an integral part of the GUI core. Windows Explorer (ie My Computer) and the desktop are run by components of IE. Probably certain networking components too.
Mine falls under the 'general technical nature' category.
What's more generally technical than the human body? We still don't know how the brain works. That runs on electricity. Of sorts =]
Why would you want it when you could use something else like firefox. I hate it when programs 'insist' you install Internet Explorer before installing the actual prog.
Because Internet Explorer is an integral part of the GUI core. Windows Explorer (ie My Computer) and the desktop are run by components of IE. Probably certain networking components too.
Don't dis IE as though it doesn't deserve to exist.
It's thanks to IE that I can safely and comfortably create a program that embeds an HTML page in it drawn by Internet Explorer.
It's thanks to IE that I can safely and comfortably create a program that embeds an HTML page in it drawn by Internet Explorer.
Well, so far IE7 runs faster for me than firefox. It has tabbed browsing which is the schizz. Webpages load faster than Firefox and it has neat features.
I think I'll test it some more but it looks like I'm definately going to use it over Firefox.
I think I'll test it some more but it looks like I'm definately going to use it over Firefox.
the printing features are excellent if you print a lot of stuff off of the web.
I don't like the way the Address Bar is no longer customisable and I've seen some minor layout problems probably related to CSS. Otherwise groovy so far - I no longer need Google Toolbar, which is cool. One less piece of kit to worry about...