My oldest proveable web presense
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Heh, I found this really old post by me (Jake Birkett) from 1996, I seem rather proud of my 28.8 modem lol. I started with a 14.4 and BBSs a while before that. Have any of you got any old references on the web?
http://www.wdi.co.uk/bvr/bulletin.htm
this is a fun topic :) i know there is an earlier one if i could just remember my college email addy... i also have one from 1996:
http://us.geocities.com/programatica.geo/page4.htm#7
Hey Jake you have too much time on your hands dude! Lol, seriously though, my earliest actual web presence was using the Amiga, on a slow but sure 14,400. At that time I was IPete.
The first web site I ever designed has long since gone, but one of the first commercial sites I did still exists. 1997/98 I think. I originally did this for aonother company, then once I left and set up SmartScreen (2001) they brought it to me and asked if I would help maintain it.
www.welephant.co.uk
First really big use of Flash too.
IPete2.

LOL! (my brother made teh site)
There is a little history about my various sites here
http://www.acsv.net/acsite/about_sitearchive.php If you are ineterested :)
1999 for me... I was late getting on the internet, but ironically the person who got me online was IPete2. In his generosity he posted me a modem, and let me use his Demon ISP account!
Anyhow, I found a post of mine on a guestbook
here. Not telling which one it is, although IPete2 will know. :)
Well not really a web reference but back during my "puberty years" of discovering of girls and computers in the early 90's, I somehow aquired one of those internet-based emails through a local BBS on my 2400 baud (not 28.8k, not 14.4k, not even 9.6...but a 2.4!!!) modem and had long winded discussion about the existences of extra terrestrials with professors and "experts" thousands of miles from me........of course most of the time I was talking trash and messing with them....but it was still ground breaking back then....
gman: your site has nice windows 3.1 style buttons, remember those?
Ipete2: I don't have much spare time at all really, I'm just naughty and distract myself from my work.
skn3[ac]: how old is the site? Ah, I just read 1997.
Mousey: 1999, cor you n00b! ;-)
Neuro: I once found a 2400 modem in the loft where I worked, it was about a foot square and really heavy lol!
Mousey: 1999, cor you n00b! ;-)
lol - it's true.
IPete2 is also indirectly responsible for me getting married! I used to play games on Yahoo (chess, checkers, card games etc.) and met my future wife. Long story short (3 trips to the USA and 1 trip for her to the UK), she moved over here and we got married (October 2001).
The moral of the story is this... I may have been late getting on the internet, but I put it to good use when I finally got online! Or something. :)
mousey, that's really cool! My brother in law is English and his wife is from the U.S. and she moved to York (U.K) to get married to him.
My first online Presence was as 'Zando' on Micronet back in the Stoneage... Circa 1987 ... I think. :) With a few posts on BB's a couple of years earlier.
My, how time flies :)
Cheers
Garion
This is (I'm embarrased to say), my oldest web presence:
http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/1373/
In 1994 (or so) i was getting my first PC, and the guy who brought it was impressing us about how there is such a thing in the world called BBS and you can actually transfer a LOT of text and even some pictures over computers and phone lines. I was shocked (it was the DOS days)! People actually communicated by typing????? wtf?? I think he was just trying to sell us a modem tho.
Of course then win95 came and when i saw first digital video i couldnt beleive my eyes.
Man, I got on the web kinda late, but I have fond memories of my first BBS calls with my borrowed 1200/75. Phew. When I upgraded to 14.4 eventually I never thought I'd need anything faster. Until I got on the web ;]
Somewhere before then, though, my first web presence would undoubtedly still be hanging around on AmiNet somewhere.
I believe an old web site of mine is archived in some sites caches somewhere, too...
bbs days where the best :( im 24 and been using ckob since I was 9 so yeah about 1990. wasnt until about 94 that I started posting on boards and probebly 96 or 97 i started using chats. I did use mIRC when it first came out back back when.
I started doing the BBS thing in '91, and got my first internet connection in '94.
My first pretty pathetic looking website dates to '94 as well, but the provider that hosted it is long gone. I don't miss the days of their 30MB/month international download limits, that's for sure.
There's no longer any remnants, but I first starting using the Internet in 95 or 96. At the time a friend (who incidentally is now a web designer) got me hooked on a MUD, plus he got me to create graphics for some sites he was working on, which led to me creating my own first website.
I almost have a provable web-presence from 96, because I created this image for a local RPG shop:

Unfortunately, while the shop and website still exist, they are no longer using this image.
Neuro: I once found a 2400 modem in the loft where I worked, it was about a foot square and really heavy lol!
Thats huge....the 2400 baud modem I had was built into my 486sx....which was high end stuff back then....
This certainly isn't my first... but it's a post from April 1999 about Cubase... Totally unexciting! Scroll down about 2/3rds or do a find for rob farley!
http://astrochat.bubble.com/aa_dt_new/hardware/item.cfm?threadid=234&lang=0
The oldest posts I could find was from 1994 featuring a
discussion about some CD32 demos we did. I'm just about to junk my Philip's CD burner from back then which cost some NZ$10,000.
I did the math.. I was 13 when my dad first got the internet i'm 22 now.. that means I was online in 96... but I don't remember when I got my geocities account... It was actually before I got the internet (a friends PC) and so I bet I was online in 95... But I can't prove it...
His site was a Godzilla fan site and my site was for our band... Moshka... no.. we never actually played anything... I later converted it into my table top RPG's site.. Argh Checkmatie... but it no longer exists on geocities..
If anyone can find the old Argh Checkmatie site backed up anywhere.. I will kiss you.
bummer I thought mine was the oldest "proveable" but skidracer has beat me (suprise ... not). Also I remember the first CD-Writers, I worked in a computer shop and a guy bought one, it was as big as a PC and cost thousands and he planned to make CDs of some crap or another, 2 years later they were £300 quid and I bought one, haha, HP early model, never really used it enough to justify the cost but it was cool!
Anyway people I said "proveable" OK ;-) Get your old links posted dudes!
If anyone can find the old Argh Checkmatie site backed up anywhere..
If you still remember the URL of your geocities page, then check
http://www.archive.org Their archive goes back to '96
At Grey's request, although I'm pretty sure there's older stuff, the oldest I can find now is 97...
here.
hee hee This thread is turning into a p*ssing contest. :)
What a surprise.
DJ Hotcakes in da house.
Word.
xlsior
Yeah... thats the trouble.. I don't rememer the URL... all I know is it was in times square/ mezzanine.... I don't remember the address.. (the number) or how to rightly spell mezzanine... haha...
its really too bad... It was a fun little open source chessboard RPG. A bit tough on the stats tho... the numbers were too big.
Mine: Rook Zimbabwe Photo News from 1988... preweb BBS daze... then Web... now defunct
I remember the first version of Air Warrior over me old clunky modem, you could play it over compuserve.
had a net presence since they posted a modem spec and how to build it in a mag, cant remember which one.
Shame the archives of Compunet
Clicky never made it onto the net.
Uk C64 users used to have a good laugh in there. I used to do reviews (badly) on there, late 80s.
Have any of you got any old references on the web?
I found two of my earliest Usenet posts from 1992: about
DoMark's Virtual Reality Studio and the
Twiddler hand-held keyboard ('cause VR was gonna
rule the world! <g>). Some of the Amiga folks here might remember VR Studio since it was originally for that system.
WendellM: Yeah that's pretty old, I remember the studio too, I think, was it the one used to make CastleMaster etc?
That name vaguely rings a bell... if it's what I'm thinking it is, then it was created with something like '3D adventure creator'...
Grey: I never played
Castle Master, but it certainly seems closely related (both it and VRS used Freescape, and the interface is familiar). It looks like Domark made a series of adventures, then released their technology as a construction kit.
Toby: It seems that
3D Construction Kit is another name for VR Studio (they probably changed the name due to the interest in VR at the time).
When's Max3D due? Is it due yet? How about now? Still Max3D due when?
Heh, me too - it's 13 years later and I'm
still looking/waiting for the best/easiest way to create 3D games (with nothing completed to show for it... <g> ).
Wendell, that's the one I was thinking of. I guess that clears that up =]
3D Construction Kit: that's the one I was thinking of too.
Haha, remember the tape that came with 3d construction kit?
^ Yeah, I thought that including a videotape tutorial was a good idea. If I hadn't sold the software used, I'd still have it. And Carrier Command came with an audio cassette of its soundtrack to listen to when not playing the game (IIRC, done on a high-end MIDI setup that sounded a lot better than on my PC). :)
Pre-CD games tended to be pretty inventive in getting their content to you like that. Back when I had a TRS-80 Color Computer in the early 80s, Rainbow magazine would occasionally include a flexible 45 RPM record with programs on it. You'd record it onto cassette and then load it normally - that was a lot better than typing in the program listings!
Oh, and to keep sort of on-topic in this thread, my first modem (which I bought for my CoCo in 1984 for $100) was a 300 baud manual-connect. I'd pick up the phone, dial a BBS or CompuServe, wait for the tone, then flip the modem switch and hang up the phone. CompuServe was something like $6 per hour so I mostly stuck to free, local BBSes. Let's see, the BlitzMax demo is around 8 MB, so that's something like 60 hours to download at 300 bps, = $360 if downloaded from CompuServe. With my current cable modem it takes 3 minutes to download; given my monthly bill, that's 1/3 of a cent. I love technology advances... :)
Hey, you just reminded me of some game that came with a music cassette for the C64 (I think), what was it, any ideas. Can't even remember if it was any good, think the cassette was black.
LOL, I just found this ... I think this is my oldest web presence ... can't believe it's still up LOL!
http://hometown.aol.com/ban300/pubpage.htmI used to love plotting those pixels into the calculator to draw those images! I did some pretty good ones at the time. The best one I probably ever did was a Dragon Ball Z game ... I did the logo even and it was pretty rad.
A google search of my most common avatar brings up 1920
legitimate hits, while my own name brings up nothing.
I think I should change my name to PlayerTripper!
My oldest stuff must be some atari st game releases. I used to write my first homepage on an atari. Unfortunately all those free webspaces are gone. I found a page with ripped soundtracks from games. I guess it was about 1997 or so when I releaed this late atari game:
http://www.mirsoft.info/gmb/music_info.php?id_ele=MTM3MzY=Uh, just found this:
G.483 DARC II (1mb) by Dieter Marfurt. Cairo, Gizeh, July 2nd 1995. Professor Huber from the Egyptology Research Center at Cairo discovered an unknown corridor which ends 600 feet underground at a locked door made of titan. The symbols on the door were of no known language. Which culture could have produced titan? Explore Egyptian ruins with a Doom type engine to recover keys and disks to save the world...
(http://www.steverosie.demon.co.uk/games.htm)
When I used to write that, 1995 was science fiction :) So I think it was released in 1994. Tho "doom type engine" is really a shameless exaggeration by someone.
EDIT
Wow it's unbelievable what you find sometimes when you enter your name in yahoo, eg. i just found a page with free games, they list one of my fps demos right byside doom 1, and report more than 6 thousand downloads. And I even didn't know about that page.
If I get it right, my title is even top ranking:
http://www.beepworld.de/members77/computer-site/gratisgames.htm
jfk: which one? Secret of Manes of Special Cops 2? Both got over 8.0 so that would be good then! Some cool games on that page, T32 (Turrican) is great!