Convert .max, without 3ds Max?!

I have two 3d models which come in .max format, and I wish to convert them to .3ds, .c4d, .obj, or something else that a program other than 3ds max can understand.

The models are at the following two links:
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/160566
http://www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/Index.cfm/ID/235636

Do you know of any *.max to *.* converter programs, or would you be willing to convert these and email them to me?

not looked through them, but are any of these any use?

Gmax is free and it can open .max files, can't it?

Nope, pretty sure it can't.

Moreover, I'm pretty sure that .max is a closed format and cannot be read by any other app. Even the fantastic 3d Explorations only ever read .Max files if you had 3dsMax installed.

I believe you need max .dll's to convert the procedural parts of the models etc and compile the final result.

.MAX is a closed format that nobody has yet been able to read. The closest anyone has gotten to viewing a .MAX file was in 3D Exploration, and you had to have Max open so it could send the data to 3D Exploration.

I just converted the blimp to 3DS with my old version of 3D Exploration Enterprise Edition.

But the Zep is giving me problems.

The latest version of 3D Exploration wont touch either of them..sigh :(

Cheers

Garion

Dylan, check your GMail account :)

I didn't want to put up a download link, since they aren't my models.

Cheers,
Lee.

You could just download the 30 day demo of 3DS Max.

no need, iv'e already converted and sent them to him via e-mail.

cheers,
Lee.

Thanks Opcode :)