The home computer 2004

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http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Science/Randcomp.html

Hehe!


Andy

keyboard looks a bit like a commodore pet. I like the fact it has a built in steering wheel for racing games. The TV on the wall looks fake!

What's nice about this is that it means whatever we can imagine computers will be like in 60 years, they'll be ten times better! (Although I'll most likely be dead by then - let's say 30 years. Or maybe days just to be on the safe side)

Thing is a lot of 60s sci-fi predicted robots being everywhere and really good AI that could understand you and that might surpass humans, but this hasn't happened (yet)

i predict sticky pad screens that you stick to your arm and carry a small ipod like box that does all the media/wireless for you and beams it direct to the screen on your arm.
I predict this within 10 years.

iirc this photo was a hoax... it's a photo of the interior of a submarine orso..

sounds reasonable (as a fake)

and here's the proof

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/computer.asp

hey I was right! the TV was fake, so was the keyboard and the man!

I've just eaten my hat (it was quite nice)

That is one of the worst photochops I've ever seen.

yup... you're looking at the manuevering station of the propulsion section of a submarine...

why didn't someone ask me!!!!!! :)


--Mike

Hey, there're more ppl with DVD's of The Hunt, Das Boot, Crimson and U571.. :D

(did I forget one?)


.. whatever computer would need a steering wheel anyway :P

whatever computer would need a steering wheel anyway :P
lol. Yep, that was the biggest giveaway of all. :P

(did I forget one?)
Yellow submarine? :P

actually... that's not a steering wheel...

hahahahaaa... this gets better and better... and better...

--Mike

I know what it is, it's the manual override to transfer data from RAM to VRAM, it's a bit slow but speed can be improved with a more musclebound crewman.

Well, they weren't far off - that is a BBC micro in that computer - look here is the same one:



Sadly the old bloke in the picture is dead.

The wheel could be used to pull the punchcard over the punchhole-reader. The faster you pull, the faster the code runs .. human-controlled Mhz! :P

actually... that's not a steering wheel...

Just because naval folk have to reinvent the wheel when it comes to jargon, that doesn't mean it isn't a ruddy steering wheel. Whether it stears anything or not, it's a stearing wheel!

It's almost a shame that this is a hoax.

Whether it stears anything or not, it's a stearing wheel!

sorry Becky... you are wrong... it has nothing at all to do with the operation of the rudder... nor does it have anything at all to do with the steering of the ship...

like i said above... it's not a steering wheel... not in any sense of the term...

and, like you said a ways back... you know a little about sailing ('Oh I know the odd thing about sailing')...well, while you may know a little about sailing... it would seem that you know very little about nuclear submarines...

besides... come on now!!! why would i weigh down this knowledgable topic, with a matter of word symantics :)


--Mike

Here yoo go Lubbers

http://home.att.net/~jeff1_satobserve/photo17.htm

Cheers

Garion
Salty Sea Dog

C'mon Red... Give em a break. Just tell em it's the ahead and stern throttle controls. :)

and I've been beaten to the punch

ahhhh.... i was giving Becky a chance to come back at me with the correct answer :)

--Mike

Red.... I believe becky was refering to the shape of the device. It is the shape, (and mostlikely was once bought in the store in the first place as) a steering wheel. What it is used for in this application is irrelivent.

The idea was obviously inspired by a steering wheel, because the person who designed it prolly had a car.

They are not used for steering, but they are in the shape of a steering wheel.

calling it anything else, is renaming it.

Pringles use a tennis ball can. Just without tennis balls.

If you put non-chinese food in a chinese food container, it is still a chinese food container.

Just because it isn't used for steering, doesn't mean it isn't a steering wheel.

Whether it stears anything or not, it's a stearing wheel!


well... why don't we let her own words do the talking for her D... and not put words into her mouth...

now read what she said slowly...

yes... i believe her own words serve to show exactly what she meant...


add to that, your analogies are absurd... chinese food, tennis ball cans... huuuu... whaaaatttt...

if i were to subscribe to your way of thinking... hey, we could call boys girls, the sky brown... and up down...

no... she was wrong... wrong in every sense... and, i'm sorry to say... so are you in this...

she thought it was a steering wheel, because she didn't actually know what it was she was looking at... in her haste to assume the role of Miss Becky, World Know It All (which it appears, she wants to steal from our resident knowledge base, FlameDuck), she jumped to an incorrect conclusion... she jumped way up there, with both feet flying...

if, in fact, she had any idea what it was, the 'steering' part would never enter the picture... and she would've referred to it as a wheel...

ok...



--Mike

boys girls, the sky brown... and up down


A more correct and home-hitting analogy would be calling your television an ocilloscope, or your computer keyboard a typewriter.

Yes, it looks like a steering wheel, and everyone will know what you're talking about if you call it one, but you can't pretend it's actually called that if someone with more knowledge on the subject tells you that's not what it's called.

That said, Red: play nice and tell us what it's for. :)

hahaha... yes, your analogies are better o...

Kanati already told us what it was...

it's a throttle controller...

it controls the amount of steam valved into the turbines to spin the shafts... thus making the prop spin faster... and the sub go go go...

well... that's close to what it does, anyway :)

--Mike

If it had been this way, I don't think laptops would have been invented until the late 4000's, and the handheld wouldn't have been invented until the next ice age.

Red: Becky said "ruddy" which means "bloody" as in "bloody hell" it has nothing to do with a rudder, you misread that one. It is steering wheel "shaped" that can't be argued, but that fact that it doesn't steer it probably tightens or releases some value is a different issue.

i know what ruddy means GA... i've watched enough britcoms over here in the colonies to be familiar with the term... i didn't misread it...

and what do you mean it's steering wheel shaped...

uhhh, huuuullloooo... all wheels are round... me thinks that's the very definition of the thing ya know... in that context, yeah... it looks like a steering wheel... and any other wheel as well...

but what in particular makes this one look so much like a steering wheel... as opposed to a wheel that controls a valve... that she would have to come to the conclusion that it was...

this is entirely disregarding that she did say 'steering'... and the only way your gonna steer the sub that this pic comes from is with a rudder...

... so ruddy or not, you take it from there...


--Mike

assume the role of Miss Becky, World Know It All
Oh, the irony is killing me!
Ha ha ha...

Red: Oh yeah re-reading I see what you mean, the first part made it sound like it WAS a steering wheel, not just shaped, but the second part seemed to clarify. Anyway what I was going to say was it's really two wheel like objects, the background big wheel is just wheel like, but the front one has a rim and the spokes go back away from it, very much like a 1970s steering wheel, thus that part of the "contraption" is very steering wheel shaped.

It is a stainless steel, 3 spoked wheel, that is meant to be turned by hand.

A valve is a lot like that. Only valves tend to have more spokes and more grip, they also tend to be made of cast iron, rather than stainless steel.

http://images.google.com/images?q=steering+wheel&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

http://images.google.com/images?q=valve+wheel&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Which looks more like it again?


The device is called a steering wheel. The name of a device doesn't change when it's function changes.

It is a common name. Just like when someone says they are flipping the dial, when they are changing a channel. Most TVs no longer have a dial.

Indeed, we say, Dial your number, or Dial the phone. When the phone no longer has a dial on it.

We say press the button, on a website, we say open the tin can, when it is made of aluminum. Tin foil, same deal.

we swap pill with capsule all the time.

We eat at a diner that is a building and not a diner car.

All of these are examples of how our devices have names that don't relate to what they do, or outdated names for things we no longer do.

Why is it so rediculous to call a wheel that looks like a steering wheel, a steering wheel. Even when it doesn't steer.

If you shout to the newbie on the crew, go turn the steering wheel there 3 turns to the left. He will know what it means.

Don't you think thats why they shaped it like that in the first place?

lol. This thread is killing me. Does it really matter what the bloody wheel thing is called?

thank god there was only ONE wheel in that photo :P

The device is called a steering wheel.


what's your device called... that device is not called a steering wheel... what ever gave you the idea that it is called a steering wheel!!!

it doesn't steer anything!!!!!!!


ya know... this is becoming a lil anal...

alright D... if it makes you happy, then yes... it's a steering wheel...


--Mike

gosh... can we move on now...

thank god there was only ONE wheel in that photo :P


Actually there are two, a smaller one on top of the other.
:o)
*ducks and runs*

I pointed that out, I want ownership of the "there are two wheels" concept.

That image was created for this FARK.com photoshop competition in Sept. 2004: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1115586&mode=voteresults

"Photoshop this mock-up of a submarine's maneuvering Room"

For some reason, Lucket's entry starting popping up in the traditional media shortly afterwards, as being 'real'.