Win98/ME Testers Please

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I've rebuilt TriviaNet Challenge to include Tim's fix for all the blending/color problems with BMax. It hasn't caused any problems with XP, which is a good start, but I'd like to know if it's fixed the graphical errors that Win98 and WinME users would have been getting.

I don't have a Win98 or WinME box, so I'm not 100% sure what the problem would have looked like, but it would have been obviously messed up graphics, wrong blend modes, wrong colors, etc.

Anyway, it's just a five meg download so I'd appreciate a few testers. I think I forgot to increase the version number so if you've tried it on your Win98/ME box before and used up all the trial time, it may not reset the trial time for you. If you have any trial time left, it'll be fine.

http://www.animebowlingbabes.com/testing/trivianetsetup.exe

Win98SE user here.

Bad news. After I installed and ran the game, it completely hung windows - mouse cursor went and I was just left with a frozen view of my desktop. ctrl+alt+del didn't even work.

After re-booting I ran again and got an error message about "module user.exe". Again, windows was trollied and I had to re-boot.

Minor point: The menu screen that pops up when you run appears with horizontal and vertical scrollbars which doesn't look too nice. I do have to run my desktop at 800x600, though.

Thanks for testing. Sorry for the bad experiences. I wouldn't have put it up for testing if I thought there was any possibility of that happening. I don't think it's related to the game itself, as I don't do anything to interfere with User.exe.

I think Software Passport uses the IE rendering engine to render my try/buy windows. Are you running a fully updated version of IE? I seem to recall there being some General Protection Fault stuff in 98se being caused by IE which were resolved with an update.

Hey, no need to appologize, Sybixsus. How else would you find out there are problems. :)

What is user.exe, exactly. Is it part of Software Passport?

I'm using the latest version of IE that works on win98 (v6), btw.

user.exe is a Windows 98 system file.

The only things I know of which can trigger an error with it off the top of my head are :

SpeedKey ( so this isn't the problem here )

IE ( could be the problem, since Software Passport is using it for the windows )

Video/Monitor Modes and Drivers ( could be the problem, but isn't really something I can control. )

I also found this quote :

In general User.exe errors can be blamed to video related problems. In some cases its due to drivers not being up to date. Other times it is caused from having a video mode of more than 256 colors. If you get a lot of user.exe errors try changing the video mode for number of colors to 256 or some other value. The 32-bit mode or true-color mode can cause this problem.

Now I do use 32bit color if it's available, but I'm sure you must have run a lot of 32bit programs around here. I don't use it unless you have it, so unless your drivers are reporting that 32bit color is available when it's not, I can't do much about that either.

Out of interest, what videocard do you have? Does it do 32 bit? Are the drivers up to date?

I have a GeForce 2 GTS 32MB and it does 32bit fine, normally. I did look for an update recently but I think they stopped doing driver updates for it some time ago.

dp

Yep, I can only think it's an IE issue then, in which case the old version wouldn't have worked either.

Anyone else got a Win98/ME machine to test on? There's no point me releasing an update unless I know it works.

Win/ME :

no problems with the graphic - but there is no sound
( exept when i'm returning to windows)

Thanks man, I guess that's good news. Do you generally have any problems with BMax programs and sound? I don't do much with sounds really.

Win98SE2 DX9 Matrox G400Max

No idea about the sound (makes note to install a card).

Software passport has instructed me to reboot the machine (how odd) - Back soon.

OKay - I'm back.

Someone put the purchase button where I would expect the play button to be! :D

The game loads okay but I don't get any menu, well I do but when I go to click on one of the buttons the background goes black and I am left with a nice blue gui background on the screen. Also I can't CRTL+ALT+DEL (the blue background for the GUI is there all the time; even before the menu disappears - it obscures your title text).

Then it just hangs.... :(

Not sure why this is happening Phil, I managed to get Caboodle and cBubble and iGlass working perfectly.

Basically I'm having exactly the same problems as I had before you rebuilt.

Thanks Tim, somehow I suspected this would be the case. Some get no sound. Some get no graphics. Some get no start. Some get a system hang. Boy am I glad I went with BlitzMax X-D

Ah well, on the plus side, Windows 98 is less than 5% of my visitors, so could be worse.