Swimming pool - almost final :)

Hey, think i've sorted out the pool.
www.downloads.polarstudios.co.uk/twisted-souls/pool.zip
now features caustics, reflections sorted out and some candy :) oh and it's textured

Holy caustics Batman! The animated textures on the walls are too in-your-face, and you need to put in some sort of frame limiting/framerate independence because it runs really fast on my system. It's hard to give much meaningful feedback until you fix the latter because the whole thing feels frantic and out of control to me.

I get a memory access violation. I believe there are some missing include files...

MAV here too.

I really wish people would test stuff before they upload it. :/

it's searching for some includes in a folder that's two folders back.

Works ok here. Give it a "cubemap size" of 200 and try that.

Good effect anyway :)

mav...

Hmmm, 200 works, along with every other number I'd previously tried. Looks like he's tried to fix it on the sly, without anybody noticing its a different demo. ;)

Its still a far cry from the original screenshot that was posted. At least the water reflection is aligned properly now and the controls are better.

The water effect on the walls is too... what's the word... 'obvious'? Needs to be way more subtle than that. It reminds me of a level from Alien vs Predator (this is NOT as good as it sounds!), I think it was the alien ship level - the one where you couldn't see where the hell you were going because of stupid crazy textures everywhere.

Also, every second or so, it seems to be rendering blank walls for one single frame.

Another problem - if you stand at the bottom of the steps looking towards the diving board, you'll see that the board isn't flat - its angled at about 15 degrees and goes through the steps.

the original screenshot is a render in 3ds max, so i cant match it, it was the only screenshot i had.. but please stop cursing me for that! the demo was built so i could learn how to do water effects like cubemapping it, and then using an animated texture for the caustics. the model i cant help - i dont model i dont have any modelling software either. the blank walls thing gfk - i've never experienced :\
i agree with you on the texture problem about it being to obvious i think this is because i dont have the other textures the guy used to model the pool :) I'll take all the comments into account and try and get a new demo asap.

thanks for the feedback :)
aCiD2

(MAV - try using a cubemap size of a multiple 2 like 256, 512 etc)

The animations were VERY fast and ruined some of the feel.. but I sense that you're on so something cool here ^^

Suppose I wrote a little racing game, with boxes for cars (cos I can't model), and a flat plane for a track, with pyramids for trees and spheres for dust particles, then go out and take a photo of a real life rally car and post that, hailing it as my demo, what would you say?

You'd all go "OOOH THAT LOOKS SWEET! Downloading now can't wait to play it".

Then when you'd actually played it and it was nothing like what I had led you to believe it looked like, "WTF?!".

I was disappointed with the way it looked in Blitz, after seeing the screenshot.

If its just a backslap you're after, then say so. I'll lie through my teeth for you and tell you its the dogs b***ocks if that's what you want me to do.

I have bought a few AAA titles over the years that appear to have done that for the shots on the box front and back, lol.

>Suppose I wrote a little racing game, with boxes for cars
>(cos I can't model), and a flat plane for a track, with
>pyramids for trees and spheres for dust particles, then go
>out and take a photo of a real life rally car and post
>that, hailing it as my demo, what would you say?

Make it multiplayer and fun as hell, then you have a winner...

Andy

ok, i guess i take it back.. maybe it was to much a one go or something... my apologies gfk feel kinda dumb now for so much over reaction... i guess instead of the way i signled you out was stupid i owe you a thanks for the help you wre tying to give me.
Thanks GFK, understandable if you don't want to accept this, but Im not here to have fights with people just cause i can't understand that my works going to be awesome first posting :)


Hope you don't mean that any more :P

Again, deep apologies from me - hope we can put this aside.

Hey aCiD2,
better, but:

why are there flames floating above the pool?
the walls look very blurry from inside the pool
the water rippling and caustics anims are way too fast
it would be nice to not have to type in the cubemap size

also, you should try to post screenshots from their original environment (ie. for a model, 3ds max, for a blitz creation, blitz)

ever heard of the SaveBuffer command?

if you don't want to be treated badly, don't post your work here. I have seen some of the worst treatment imaginable on these forums.

yes, i know savebuffer(dont use it, use a savepng routine) but i rushed the upload, just about to go to bed lol. the walls and stuff should blur underwater, its the effects the water has on your eyes, is it too much?
water rippling too fast?!?! hmm, how should it look then?
the falem above the pool..ya:p got boered with particle candy hehe.

I'm getting a MAV all the time here regardless if I use a power of 2 size.

really dont know hy thats is rob... :\ tryed downloading again? dont see how you can download and not get a corrupt zip tho :)

Yep same here, all sizes of cubemap

P4 3.2Ghz
1gb ram
ATI 9800XT