BlitzPlus and 3D

It was considered a neat trick, but an oddity when BlitzPlus was made to work with 3D in OpenGL. I have so much 3D code written for BlitzPlus, including CreateMesh() and matrix commands, that it's tempting to totally forgo Blitz3D and just write my own 3D engine.

I have no reason to do this right now, but it is interesting that all the OpenGL features, including per-pixel lighting, are potentially available.

Wouldn't there be a large performance hit if you did so? Just wondering. Do you think Mark has some 3D in mind for a future version of B+? Or just whetting our appetites for BMax when it eventually appears... ;)

Russell

B+ IS BlitzMax, as I understand it.

There would be no performance hit if you wrote it right. I kind of like the degree of control it allows, but there is a lot of stuff that is a big pain in the ass to figure out.

Write it and sell it. I'd do it myself if I could.

But I'd rather just pay for it ;)

One thing though - if you do go ahead, try to make everything behave in a similar way to B3D so that the transition is a smooth one. A simple example would be MoveEntity() moving objects a similar 'distance' in both languages.

Why don't you do some speed tests for your OpenGL code, against the same thing in Blitz3D? I'm sure you'll find B3D to be faster... somehow!

I am not going to write any kind of public 3d lib. I'm just saying that there's nothing keeping anyone freom writing a new 3D engine.

Well, we all knew that....

I wood love to see basic 3d commands in B+ this wood make making editing tools a lot eseyer. and code wood be esaly ported/from to blitz3d/blitzmax(When it is done)

unfucntley i dont have the skill or time to have have a go myself or i wood be having a go!!

Qcat

hmm i believe Drago is doing this yet

Maybe I'll put an unsupported chunk of code out.

I actually like OpenGL rendering better than Blitz3D.

You have to write a lot of your own "shell" functions to make useful commands out of the extremely low-level GL commands.

However, you have way more control, and with all the Blitz3D stuff I have ended up doing with my own code, it's not that big of a difference.

Yes, I am doing this, and it does require alot of effort,
but it is getting there, but I do have a lot left to do though.

Hold on a sec... B+ *IS* BMax? I hope you're wrong about this! (Unless B+ has a lot of serious upgrades coming) Or is BMax going to be B+ with a lot of extra functionality, in the same way that b3d was to b2d?

Russell

As I understand it, BMax will be a seperate product, but B+ is being used as the testbed.

Hmm... Hope we don't run into another 'no upgrade discount' debate when BMax comes out :(

Russell

Oh, I think we will =]

'prolly right ;) Anyone have any idea as to how much BMax will go for? I'll put my guess at:

$149 - for new purchasers
$149 - for owners of Blitz 3D
$149 - for owners of Blitz Plus
$149 - for owners of Blitz 2D
$99 - for owners of Dark Basic Pro - just kidding! (They pay double price ;)

Russell

LOL@Russell